Originally Posted by
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The only ones with pertinent info are topsy whos been afk for a bit now and coss who won't incriminate himself. I largely play on slack, and I've seen other logs at times. Of course the downside of slack is that I can't go through these logs as they are purged every few days. I did my best to do the leg work in the other thread and get people caught up who actually want to be neutral in this.
My above response applies to this as well.
As to the specifics of the deal, it really was contingent on positioning vs. emeriti following the first war. No, neither side was going to feed the winner to be bigger than em who has earned their spot throughout the age. That's unfair and chart shaping. But the fact is that if either side wins by min time by 50k acres then there's no need for an additional acre payment to have a war to decide the age between emeriti+winner. The existence of the deal is no less true. Both sides probably would have whored far more aggressively had the deal not existed. Other kingdoms (Sparta, BB, PI, etc.) were able to get free cfs from wsk/cr due this actually existing. That wouldn't have been as fun for the rest of the server, but it at least would have meant that neither side would care if the other chose not to honor their word. I can say unequivocally if the shoe were on the other foot and CR withdrew then took an easy war while simultaneously claiming the deal was off but conflict was still on, we would get GBed into the war. Coss has a history of this, and as you can see from this situation, lots of sad players want their pound of flesh when things don't matter anymore.
If you want to split hairs over what the guy is saying then w/e. I've reposted something I felt was a reasonable point by munk to get actual neutral people caught up. I don't have the time or want to try to convince a bunch of wsk/sparta ppl they are in the wrong when cRs has already used blatant misinformation in another thread to try to prove another "point":
my reply to that:
This level of fibbing just gets tiresome. The guy links intel from the end of the war and tries to use it to claim we had provs at eowcf with 10k def. And lying over something this trivial to prove a point that really doesn't matter just makes this thing annoying. I'm gonna probably head back to afk, because, frankly, there's no use trying to convince those who will just make stuff up to prove points that don't matter.