Pretty much spot on. Once the possibility of them wd-ing land up if we just kept to masses there was only one way to go. Which was the way we did go.Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
#gametheory #prisonersdilemma.
Would be to stick in it and hope they withdrew and we got back to 10k deficit and then race our asses to the end date. The extrapolation of the econ advantage and troop advantage the last 36-48h was already done and I knew they would go ahead on both counts.
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#Pyromaniacs
I think that when you look at a situation such as this it's first important to clearly assess the ins and out of it. You can't just make a judgment based on half evidence and assumptions.
I'm glad there is some middle ground to settle on. On a scale of deservation:
Barcoloco: 1.4 crowns
Emeriti: 0.4 crowns
BB: 0.2 crowns
There were 3 though!
Last edited by Akkadian/Taylor; 23-05-2017 at 12:07.
Nesta, you are initially correct in your #gametheory but then you did not adapt and continue to play according to sound #gametheory. Your best initial play was to tell the enemy you did not intend to wd and hope that they instead would so that you could have a chance at #1. However, once it was no longer possible for you to win even with the ww, then the optimal strategy had changed. Not long after that, it was also clear that Emeriti also could not win without the ww.
At this time, it was clear both that BB could not win from a ww and also that Emeriti had no benefit at all from a wd. At this time, there was no #gametheory advantage to sticking in the war you had clearly lost. And by doing so just to spite emeriti and play spoiler to the kingdom that had beaten you in war and been #1 majority of the age, you actually went counter to #gametheory. You sacrificed future good will when you could have benefited from it just for the satisfaction of causing a deserving kingdom to drop in the rankings.
Beyond all this, you made Flogger look bad since the deal he got for you was based on goodwill and specifically him selling BB as honorable and deserving of a fair fight with Emeriti for the crown. By using that opportunity, given to you by the goodwill of Emeriti, to play spoiler when you lost, you took advantage of their good will (a mistake they would be foolish to make again) and also made flogger look like a liar with respect to being able to trust BB to play honorable in a fight for #1. In addition, both Protector and Mod had stated that BB would withdraw if they were losing and it was clear they couldn't win. Again, you make them appear to be liars when you admit that BB had chose a strategy where you never had any intention to wd no matter how badly you were losing.
The end result of all this shows a poor understanding of #gametheory by reducing future good will and crown chances for your kingdom purely to spite emeriti.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 23-05-2017 at 17:14.
This is rich.
"The Utopian voice of reason" ~Ben (And he's an official moderator)
He cries about Sheister writing propaganda and then all he does is doing propaganda for Emeriti in every post he makes.
That is also rich.
Powerful game theory there. Hook me up next time you have a poker game.
So I bluffed the flop. Got called. Bluffed the turn. Got called again. And river I show my hand face up and admit I'm bluffing and check fold the river. And then I tell him to show mercy and return the favour next hand and not bluff me off a pot.
New age is starting in 2 minutes guys and gals. Just wanted to let you all know, it seems like you all think last age is still relevant.
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2 mins, when you posted it!
Do I have to correct you everywhere? :P
#Rage
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haha! I ninja-edited it on you!
ingame it said 1-min though
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fail fail fail canna!
#Rage
Best FAKE Kingdom in Utopia
AWAR Specialists
Fair Play Alliance Cornerstone
***** Most number of Awar Crowns - 5 *****
Utopia isn't poker and you're mistaken if you think the same strategy applies. In poker if you bluff all the way through and still lose the hand, the winner is probably quite happy with taking your money. I think it would be quite unusual in poker to have the game end mid hand to "save" the bluffer. In addition, in utopia, the "cards" are visible to all parties all the time.
In your broken analogy, you reached a point where you knew for certain your cards would not win and you also knew for certain your opponent would not fold. Yet you kept putting more of your own money in the pot (or more accurately directly in your opponent's hand) in hopes of stalling the poker game long enough that the game would get shut down to result in both sides losing their money in an effort to hurt your opponent even at your own expense. This harm you caused has little to no benefit to you in future hands and is much more likely to result in future harm to yourself.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 23-05-2017 at 18:37.
QUIT poker and GO play ANGRY birds. Both of you!
#Rage
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AWAR Specialists
Fair Play Alliance Cornerstone
***** Most number of Awar Crowns - 5 *****
Uuuh?
Never forget that Emeriti gave up a 210k to 150k lead
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