Bb vs em

[protector]

Oh ok it must have been another Beastblood kd lead by a different guy named protector. My bad

So back up your claim with facts or stfu.

[Meep]

The fact that you condone the ****play confirms to me that the messages I got about you coordinating that GB on us are true.

I mean, it's cRs' only hope.

He's never actually been good enough to win, ****players winning means he has a chance.

But yeah, with the way growth works now, there's no real way for the few remaining top KDs to create the separation from the rest of the server necessary to even step in and punish ****play if they wanted to.

[cRs]

The fact that you condone the ****play confirms to me that the messages I got about you coordinating that GB on us are true.

Wtf are u talking about? Gb on u? I never did a damn db all these ages I played.. u think I can/will ever coordonate a gb on a certain kd? I condone th3 ****play? I say kudos for bart for disbanding and fcking bb/eme/cr who rulled this game for ages and ages.. and made the game changes only to suit theyr farming on others.. bart has broke u and ur ****play for all this ages and maybe this will make the new owners consider making this game playable for the 3k "ghetto player base" not for u 75-100 fckers who all you did for this game was taking opportunities of every decent players playing fair and insisting on changes only for ur own satisfaction. I dont like bart way 99% of the case but I do like that he has shown the worst of this game and all the loops u "top" have abused all this ages.

[cRs]

I mean, it's cRs' only hope.

He's never actually been good enough to win, ****players winning means he has a chance.

But yeah, with the way growth works now, there's no real way for the few remaining top KDs to create the separation from the rest of the server necessary to even step in and punish ****play if they wanted to.

Meep u in this game = 0.. for ages and ages u have tryed to do something and allways failed.. with good and bads I managed to raise a kd from scratch with ppl with 0 experience and win some crowns with them.. ur only achievments in this game came from beeing able to "join" some good kds/leaders who leaded u well.. so for me ur only a good sheep untill u proove the contrary. After u can pass ur "beeeh" position u come and talk about me

[JoRoSaR]

Why don’t the sh1tplayers just clean up their act and play better, straight up 1v1 without the BS. Surely they realize that others do not consider them good / skilled and do not respect them for their abilities. After all the point of consistently crowning is to be the best, without the recognition it’s worthless.

As much as people hated Abs, it provided a great mechanism for enforcing clean play. The fact the Abs existed was enough to deter the most vile acts of sh1tplay and people resorted to doing things on the margins. But to create an alliance like that, the bonds need to be greater than the ones people have today. Also no one really likes each other.

The people doing the sh1tplay just need to grow up and stop doing it

Proteus, we’ve never really spoken much despite us both playing for 50+ ages, so let me say this. This passionate post in support of #foodforjoro was one of the loveliest things I’ve heard in recent times on the forum. I think you’re my new favourite.

<3

[Memster]

Proteus, we’ve never really spoken much despite us both playing for 50+ ages, so let me say this. This passionate post in support of #foodforjoro was one of the loveliest things I’ve heard in recent times on the forum. I think you’re my new favourite.

<3

How about to the super smart player who figured out which prov JoRoSaR played!

[Meep]

Meep u in this game = 0.. for ages and ages u have tryed to do something and allways failed.. with good and bads I managed to raise a kd from scratch with ppl with 0 experience and win some crowns with them.. ur only achievments in this game came from beeing able to "join" some good kds/leaders who leaded u well.. so for me ur only a good sheep untill u proove the contrary. After u can pass ur "beeeh" position u come and talk about me

I havent had an age I consider a failure in a long time.

I'm always okay with losing an age to punish ****play. First person through the door to ****play me is never going to win ****.

I'm not enough of a crown thirsty loser like you to dealbreak and ****play people to crown.

But if I was, unlike you I'm sure we'd pull it off.

[protector]

Wtf are u talking about? Gb on u? I never did a damn db all these ages I played.. u think I can/will ever coordonate a gb on a certain kd? I condone th3 ****play? I say kudos for bart for disbanding and fcking bb/eme/cr who rulled this game for ages and ages.. and made the game changes only to suit theyr farming on others.. bart has broke u and ur ****play for all this ages and maybe this will make the new owners consider making this game playable for the 3k "ghetto player base" not for u 75-100 fckers who all you did for this game was taking opportunities of every decent players playing fair and insisting on changes only for ur own satisfaction. I dont like bart way 99% of the case but I do like that he has shown the worst of this game and all the loops u "top" have abused all this ages.

So all of the individuals in different kingdoms I spoke to in age 68 are liars? A small faery duke suiciding on your smallest lord/baron to get 4x-ed back wasn't coordinated? When you ask around for help you're bound to run into people that don't want to participate hence how I got to know it was coordinated by your kingdom. It was a vile attempt to pass us on honor. We ended up on 138k honor instead of 150k+ due to this and the only reason you started this miserable GB attempt was because you couldn't farm honor as effective as we did.

And if you kudo someone for ****playing, how do you not condone it? You and stefan are both terrible.

[protector]

Meep u in this game = 0.. for ages and ages u have tryed to do something and allways failed.. with good and bads I managed to raise a kd from scratch with ppl with 0 experience and win some crowns with them.. ur only achievments in this game came from beeing able to "join" some good kds/leaders who leaded u well.. so for me ur only a good sheep untill u proove the contrary. After u can pass ur "beeeh" position u come and talk about me

Meep might be a nub who didn't achieve anything but neither did you. You even condone ****play, which makes you worse than him.
Sure, we (BB) and others (CR/Sleepy/Emeriti & all other top kds prior) bottomfed kingdoms, but didn't break deals on every occasion like Bart has done. We didn't plant moles like Bart has done (Bart accuses Bounce of being a mole while all Bounce did was disagree with Barts ****play and abandoned his province as a result of Barts ****play). In every competition you have stronger and weaker teams, but the weaker teams don't cheat to beat the stronger ones, they just try to win and sometimes succeed (Real Madrid lost to a weaker opponent this weekend for example). Just accept it if you are weaker than your opponent and try to learn and become better.

[JoRoSaR]

How about to the super smart player who figured out which prov JoRoSaR played!

You mean the prov from Spartans who drought me EOW? Kappa ;)

[cRs]

So all of the individuals in different kingdoms I spoke to in age 68 are liars? A small faery duke suiciding on your smallest lord/baron to get 4x-ed back wasn't coordinated? When you ask around for help you're bound to run into people that don't want to participate hence how I got to know it was coordinated by your kingdom. It was a vile attempt to pass us on honor. We ended up on 138k honor instead of 150k+ due to this and the only reason you started this miserable GB attempt was because you couldn't farm honor as effective as we did.

And if you kudo someone for ****playing, how do you not condone it? You and stefan are both terrible.

I really think u got the wrong guy... again I repeat.. i havent asked annyone to sh^tplay my opponent/s, I never asked for a gb on someone or outside hits. Before coming with this kind of sh^ts to me get ur facts right. Im sure nobody in this uto will ever have something to show such things done by me and backup ur story.

After that age the devs changed solds nw so u cant farm honor with nw manipulation. There is nothing I can learn from u... all u did was finding game loops and exploit them at max untill devs finally decide to fix it. And thats all the top have done for all these ages... exploiting game bugs to theyr max instead of trying to fix them. Thats why I kudos bart for stoping this "take over" from u and other top kds. How he did it its wrong but he have done less dmg to the game than you, ans its actually somehow forcing the devs to consider upgrading this game and stop this bullsh^t unwriten rulles u and ur fellow uto abuser put over the others and twist them as u please.

[MyNameIsMatija]

[Shai]

You sure sleepy should be crowned this age?? Sleepy only got 2 ww from the farming war ( 1st - bart 4th - Bio). The rest of real war (2nd - BB 3rd - spartan) got smashed hard and funniest thing is you talked how many ton of troops sleepy nsed in both war and how confident(90-10) sleepy can win the war make me LOL.

Yes I am sure Sleepy would had crowned. So is Ronin and Sparta. That is why they dealbroke us. They couldnt handle beating us fair.

As for saying our war record makes us undeserving winners-

First war was a lucky war. It changed nothing. We had a superior OOP stratgey and would have waved and farmed the sh*t out of anyone 48h later when we had full elite offenses and 3 raw tpa with 40 scientists in thievery, and the rest was fat with half our army. Bart tricked us into war and sure we gained the 5k ww bonus and 3k more land. But we would had gained even more not CFing everyone and being nice due to that lucky war. In fact, everyone else in the top benefited from this as much as us cause we gave them free CF out of guilt for being so lucky, instead of rather waving and warring them one by one as we had first planned.

Vs BB we f*cked up and gave them button from prosperous stance with them being avians and all. We lost a the insane amount of 3k land in that war and got big some big provs in return. 3k lost land as you might understand, is nothing over the course of the age.

Vs Barta we lost as well cause they told us "go ahead and explore we wont notice you" then we emptied pool and spend all gc right after the BB war, and they noticed us anyway, despite the fact that we had reversed roles earlier in the age. We said go ahead and explore, we wont notice you, they explored and we held our word.

Despite having 3 days to prepare for that war being fat and with a fresh loss vs a kd that had been pumping for 2 weeks we took over 10k land from them, got 3 huge cows that could secured the age for us, and would had farmed them badly in a b2b and secured the age. They and Ronin of course knew this too. So they send Bio to dealbroke us and noticed us into eowcf one day after we wd vs Sparta, so we wouldnt b2b Sparta.

Again we had a war vs an oponent that had been prepping for weeks trying to vulture us. We took roughly 10% of their land plus got the war win. 10% of a kds land in war is pretty a standard win and not close to a farmout. People now days seem absolutely clueless what a farmout is. Blame the ww bonus but get your numbers right and stop throwing around the word farmout every time someone net positive in land.

Lastly we would have farmed the f*ck out of Ronin despite them farming 35k land from Sparta and having weeks of preparing vs our 3 straight wars. They knew it, Sparta knew it. So instead they dealbreak and wave us half drafted and with gc stacked.

Why do you think Ronin dealbroke us? Just for fun? If they though they had any chance to beat us fair they would had warred us fair. Since they knew they couldnt they dealbroke us. They might pretend and claim otherwise and give some other bs reasons but everyone know a confident opponent dont dealbreak. He win fair and square and take some pride in it. Only an insecure coward dealbreak.

The fact that they send in Sparta first to plunder all our high gc provs shows you that they were so scared and felt so inferior they didnt even fully believe they could win by simply dealbreaking us by themselves. They had to have Sparta help them and dealbreake too by plundering us then ETing all our provs. That is surely the action of a confident kingdom?

Everyone knew Sleepy would win the age if people played fair and honored the deals and rules they agreed to play after (and benefited from) that entire age.
When the people with no moral compass realised this, they dealbroke as that is the only way they can win.

Its hilarious that people say we arent good enough, or deserve to crown due to a 2/4 ww record when those very wars put us in a position to win the age. If we are so bad, how come when one week remained of the age we noticed and was set to farmt he no1 kd who had just farmed 35k acres from their allies to even be in a position to fight us? How bad and undeserving must the rest be, if we are? The fact that people from these kds claim this show their total lack of strategical insight and understanding of the mechanics. They just see us wding from two wars and cant even comprahend that we actually got things out of those losing wars that can be more valuable then a win.

I just love how the warring tier always claim the top is so dirty but every single time a war tier kd attempts whoring they end up playing waaaay dirtier then any of the whoring kds. Protector pointed it out rather simply. They lack the skills so rather then taking the loss and learning they dealbreak, farm and cheat.

[Elit]

Sleepy had fun age Shai. No one can take it away from you. Just stay together and punish n00bs next age!

[protector]

I really think u got the wrong guy... again I repeat.. i havent asked annyone to sh^tplay my opponent/s, I never asked for a gb on someone or outside hits. Before coming with this kind of sh^ts to me get ur facts right. Im sure nobody in this uto will ever have something to show such things done by me and backup ur story.

After that age the devs changed solds nw so u cant farm honor with nw manipulation. There is nothing I can learn from u... all u did was finding game loops and exploit them at max untill devs finally decide to fix it. And thats all the top have done for all these ages... exploiting game bugs to theyr max instead of trying to fix them. Thats why I kudos bart for stoping this "take over" from u and other top kds. How he did it its wrong but he have done less dmg to the game than you, ans its actually somehow forcing the devs to consider upgrading this game and stop this bullsh^t unwriten rulles u and ur fellow uto abuser put over the others and twist them as u please.

I don't have the wrong guy. I had multiple people message me where your kingdom was looking for people to join the GB on BB because you found what we did was unfair (yet do it yourself).

Fact is you support Bart's ****play. By now you've posted it almost a dozen times!

What the top did was use game mechanics as they're displayed. I reported quite a few times the gains system was broken. It wasn't changed and it wasn't against the rules, so we played by the mechanics we got presented. The same mechanics YOU (ab)used. Instead of warring further, you chickened out. Afaik you turned down a war offer by a decent war KD (I think it was TBB orso?) because odds where you'd lose honor. So instead of warring for it, something you claim you love so much and is the correct way, you choose to abuse the gains system as it was. Such a hypocrit :-)

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Speaking off, how often did you report/complain to dev's about the broken mechanics?!