The Cavalier Club: A Discussion on Fair War Practice

[changeling]

Diamonds accepted an offer of a free WW in exchange for killing off certain provs after the war. If you believe that could possibly be unwitting FW for anyone with two brain cells to rub together, or anyone with eyes to read the actual written rules, perhaps you'd believe me if I said the word gullible has been taken out of the dictionary? :)

The Devs do not do everything perfectly that is for sure, they are only human not really Lords, there are grey areas, but that situation isn't one of them.

Things like agreeing no dragons are not even grey areas to me - there is no requirement to send a dragon in war its optional. There is no requirement to AW, there is no requirement to use any specific strategy at all in order to win. It is not even a rulebreak to call in your friends even though it's ****ty play and gets you a bad rep (hello Alliance of Diamonds). Not everything can be a hard and fast rule because context is really important, lots of situations are analogue not digital. Cheaters like digital and do not like the use of judgement and application of common sense. That's why the Devs decide on a case by case basis.

What is not optional about a war is genuinely trying to win.

Thanks for the response Sweetiepie. Thank you for contributing your input into this laudable thread trying to ensure that rules are not broken in the future.

I agree, of course, that the communication Diamonds accepted could be construed as problematic.

I was just pointing out that even if this thread were started by Diamonds (and it was not) as you contended, it would be evidence of good behavior and a good-faith attempt at reformation. It is something that should be encouraged and celebrated by the forum community that we are a community of players, who rather than just fill the forums with vitriol and hate when deleted or otherwise actioned by moderators, make the effort to make lemons from lemonade and use it as a learning opportunity, and more importantly, seek to help better the experience for everyone by working together on threads like this to make sure everyone learns from their mistakes and develop a better understanding of the rules we play by.

That said, this thread has been useful in bringing to light that there are actually more grey areas than we would have expected. For example, there are actually monarchs that disagree with your assessment that no dragons, no AW etc. are not against the rules. So you have just provided an excellent example of why this thread is here, and how unintentional rule-breaking can occur, where we have, for example one monarch like you, who thinks it's clear that "No AW" is clearly OK and not even a grey area, while 2-3 other monarchs here have argued that "No AW" is clearly a rule break intended to set up a KD for future wars. So this demonstrates this thread's usefulness for everyone, so that, for example an innocent leader like you won't get investigated next time when you send a "NO AW" rule request to a monarch who thinks it's against the rules.