And here comes captain "I have never lost a cow fight" to pretend to be the voice of raisins.
ho ho ho
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And here comes captain "I have never lost a cow fight" to pretend to be the voice of raisins.
ho ho ho
He wrote the book on cowing.
I read that book. Highly recommended.Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
I haven't, so what? There is nothing wrong with stating facts when it is indeed the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
John whats your record vs top kingdoms? As a matter of fact I don't even remember you interacting with any top kingdoms until flogger joined Pulse. Don't see a reason for you to be so cocky man, you guys won some wars this age. Congrats you deserve it. But guess what plenty of people have won wars before and plenty people have crowned, doesn't make you special.
Well, that didn't take too long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Back to backs are special as they happen once every 10 ages, and we're due for one soon. Don't let me down Proteus
I believe he beat flogger when he was in mercy. And we all know flogger is godlike nowadays (oh and at the start of utopia too)Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Pulse is not called the Best Kingdom Ever for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
PS It's all Realest's fault.. or is it baka's?
Objectively speaking, how come Pulse only starting appearing in the T5/cowing/engaging other top kingdoms after flogger joined? Why did that not happen under john? And even after that it was a mixed record, win some-lose some. Just like everyone else wins/loses at times. Godlike would imply never losing, flogger lost last age. This age he is winning. Reinforces the argument I have made. I don't think anyone cares for objectivity or historical trend of wins/losses so lets just drop it. Good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by curdie
Correction, he beat TheRock.Quote:
Originally Posted by curdie
Flogger: "I don't think we should fight, they're warrior and we're tact, we're going to lose"
TheRock: "But its Pulse, we can't lose"
Why so mad?
because we never diced or CF'd anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
I never actually said anything about being good, or whatever else, or went on any kind of ego trip, I'm just pointing out that its fun when YOU are the one trying to tell people not to go on ego trips.
You only have a perfect cow record if you discount any losses as not being cows, I suppose you chose human merch this age to be a mid-core sized prov?
You can spin whatever "facts" whatever way you want, but if that's all you're doing and thats not egotripping then I am 100% in the right and safe to point out that mercy where not at some major disadvantage like they want to claim in our first fight, they were 3troops per acre more pumped and we weren't in warbuild.
I'm to take it that spitting on resumes and claiming you are going to farm pulse to crown is also just stating facts?
I like new calm Proteus, its what I encouraged him to be for so long.
#marriageftw
and thats why you spent 50 wall of text posts in the forums here claiming that ZZs wave on us in hostile helped us and you would have won otherwise :DQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger
No, I spent 50 wall of text posts saying that had you not waved into our hostile with sleepy we would have won. 4 days of constant meteors is a ***** and quite a nice thing to have on your enemy prior to fighting them, wouldn't you say ?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
L2Tag noob.
you were free to have a rematch any time later in the age, you even gave notice iirc, before chickening out.
No I did not discount anything. Feel free to search the archives and prove me wrong. There was no cowing this age for anyone and we chose human merchants for the same reason you chose them, neither kingdom had cows yet when that option was available to both kingdoms. It was a much better move to allocate pool to faeries. So its funny you claim we 'failed' yet you didn't as your province were the same size as ours and were never cows.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
As for your comments on what was supposed to be an inside joke/motivational exercise for the kingdom, I'd say you are mistaken because something can't be called a 'fact' when its made prior to the event unfolding, nonetheless it was actually nothing but a kingdom joke. But yes we did beat your kingdom that age. While we didnt gain #1 from it, we still won the war. Thanks to flogger's surprising and effective strategy (flogger's not john's mind you) you guys held in gains.
Also if you look at forum posts I have not been making any egotistical comments so I am not sure what you are alluding to, its all water under the bridge for me. Hence I was surprised to see seasoned players from your kingdom behaving in such a fashion. You guys are not newbies and understand that at this level everyone wins and loses. You have all won and lost to each other so acting in a superior fashion is not really representative of the underlying the results.
I tried to tell flogger a age or two ago that most of the things he thinks hes come up with that are "new and innovative" has been done a VERY long time ago and is nothing overly impressive. It seems he didn't play back then or has a VERY warped memory of the times... Next age sword will run WH banks, keep them very small early age to farm honor up to prince and then launch them and he will claim to be Hodif as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShatterEarth
WTF that line worked on you too!?Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Wait, so just because you've kept your mouth shut for a few weeks you want us to pretend like all the things you've said for the last several years never happened? Well, I guess it's worked for Mitt Romney....Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
lol proteus, claiming to not make egotistical and trash talk comments while doing exactly that, just a post ago you were trying to insinuate that I have no skills and that only flogger knows anything about strategy in our kd, which you also claimed in your 'joke' video.
I never claimed the homes rotation strat to be mine, so I don't really know why you're trying to emphasise that it isn't, even though it came from a discussion me and flogger had about some build rotations I was doing to keep artificially high BE for training time and netting a profit from it.
@evilone lul you think the homes rotation strat we use is from age 15? the building/razing/BE/overpop mechanics aren't even the same.
I know for sure shatterearth doesn't know what he's talking about because his kingdom have failed to pull off the strat twice this age so they don't even know what it is that tehy're claiming to have seen done before.
pro-tip: its got more steps to it than y'all seem to think.
*Yawn* building rotation strats in general have been around for a very long LONG time and have been done for a multitude of different reasons for a variety of different effects. PS happiness was also effected by draft % and was actually more useful to have high than BE... I Realy don't get it, doesn't winning a couple crowns as a "quasi" independent kingdom make you special enough? To me it doesn't seem you really need to steal other peoples ideas and such and claim them as your own but then again I don't have nearly the same ego as you two.
So any pump that has to do with homes in it is "flogger strat" and if they want a different draft/BE outcome..it is a failed attempt? Very amusing John.
We were fine getting a free wave from you the next age which made you go inactive and then opened up a spot for me as the leadership group needed a leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
I invented the first major building rotation strat as well (Build costs were entirely too large for anyone else to have done it prior to when we did it, hence I know I was the first), so I guess I get credit for all of them! (Rotating halfling, its the reason we now have raze costs). Can i claim credit for it if before that age there were no raze costs, after that age there were raze costs, and no one else in the top 100 kingdoms did what we did that age? Raze costs are around over 40 ages later!Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
Its funny when evillone says it happenned "loooong ago, he must not have remembered" I played loooong ago. I crowned twice by age 6 and no one else had crowned twice until like five years later. Alot of these innovations came from me (dual monarchy was also mine) as when I played from ages 5-13, my kingdom reached #1 at some point during the age every age I played but one (we were #2 and set a new province land record the one age I didnt), and no one else on the server could have claimed to do it more than once other than Shadowlight (who did it twice to my five times).
Any home pump strategy which involves you coming out at 115% overpop and yet max BE should, I'd think.Quote:
Originally Posted by LCP
ASF: "I had never seen anyone do it to that extreme"
Aside from the fact that this is completely untrue, this is a great story.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
That wave didn't do us any favors, I definitely wasn't happy about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
This is basically factualQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger
We waved Pulse into a sci pump...free wave is a free wave, but I really don't think that's too impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
The topfeed wave on Fratzia was impressive (sorry again Hugu) but you were surprised that worked
Mercy's record against Pulse, to my knowledge, is 0-2 in wars with 1 free wave and 1 wave that put Pulse in FW/gained acres.
Stop talking and get back to the math, who let you get away from your calculator?Quote:
Originally Posted by LCP
You seriously just made me LMAO with that flogger... Yes the rotating build halfer was the reason that raze cost was implemented but pretty much EVERYONE who played halfer that age used a rotating strat to take advantage of the (i cant remember what was it like 4 hour build time posible? 2 at speed build?) I can remember literately 100's of people talking about it before the age even started, it was such an obvious strat that to try and claim credit for "inventing it" is like trying to claim credit for inventing the "attacking during war" strat LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Its pretty unimpressive to be caught in a science pump, or science pumping without ceasefires in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRock
You say "every one" Not a single kingdom in the top 100 picked halfling other than ours, and our kingdom was double the size of the #2 kingdom after 2 weeks. Who are these other people you are referring to, some random ghetto noob?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
i said everyone who played halfer. seems pretty self explanatory.... and yes I'm sure their wasn't a single other halfer played in 99 other kingdoms in the top 100.... LOL its getting sad now dude...
No its just you're an idiot, thats why we had to intra-razekill you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
I'm referring to "no other kingdoms made halfling their core race" We for example, are dwarves this age. So is mercy. Rage is avians, get it now?
congrats on running more halfers than others that age then and taking advantage of the same strat that EVERY OTHER HALFER ran that age, That makes you a serious utopian genius... lol
"look at me! look at me! i picked the best race for an age!!!! look at me!"
y u mad tho brah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
well whatever you're attempting, its a hell of a lot less effect than flogger strat so like I initially said, you aren't stealing it, and if you are you're making a hames of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LCP
When no one else in the top 100 picks the best race (in fact they all thought it was stupid before the age started) its quite the feat, and what makes you #1. Seeing as how I was #1 every age but one you can replace picked the best race "one" age with "pretty much every" age, and that's 90% of the battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
I think your ego screws up yours memory in order to inflate itself... no one thought a rotating building plan for halfers stupid just most didn't see it as a fit for their core, you might have been brave enough to try it but that certainly dosn't mean you invented the strat or make you an innovator of the game, lol.
You have been in the #1 kingdom or been the #1 province in all 54 ages except 1? really?