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If one equalizing hit was all that was asked for then why 4 massacres... and I've seen some evidence myself. It's why I think this is ridiculous. The point is people wanted to jump to that conclusion because their monarch was in a worse position after the hit. My question is what if you're wrong and joining the witch hunt. And why aren't you penalizing the guy who hit the monarch.. who is definitely in the wrong.
it all started when i asked about it and got THIS as a respone:
"maybe if you actually had friends you could get someone to help YOU lolololololol"
nuff said really...
like i said PM me if u want the paper.
Asked who? Who said that though. Someone in the kd that you're warring with or the kd that made the OOW attack? Please clarify because I am confused.
<DDodge> Sender The Wise Lady Sookie of Sookie Stackhouse (##:##)
<DDodge> Recipient King Dan the Blessed of Optimus Prime (##:##)
that guy did it. im not a liberity to release the content of the message. ill let him do that.
"The Wise Lady Sookie of Sookie Stackhouse" --> For something as serious as this, why wouldn't you talk to the Monarch? Why would you ask some random province in the kd about it? I don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
Because ingame monarch is not always ingame leader. But lets say hes actually a peon. Then, whose problem is it that, as monarch, you cannot muzzle your kingdom? If your peons do not speak for you, then shut them up. Simple as that. Otherwise, as entity, what anyone in your kingdom says, reflects upon you entirely.
Not sure the exact situation here, but I will point out that with the new system, if I send a message as acting monarch, and then step down and become a Peasant, all messages I sent, and posts I made on the forums, identify me as a peasant, regardless of the fact that I was monarch when it was done. It could be that they switched monarchs before DDodge copied the message into IRC (Since he didn't copy the message right away).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyth79
are you from that KD? i assume not, since if you were you would know they didnt respond to ANY messages for like 30 hours leading up to war.
part of me thinks you ARE the friend that hit into us. your time is over. also, we figured out who you were 10 hours later when the acres came in.
Also, im 99% over it, my gutshot reaction was to try and recruit a hit into our war to even it out. Part of me wishes i hadnt because we would have won the war regardless, but another part of me thinks this entire thing is hilarious and is a pretty cool message to everyone not to recruit help into a 1v1 conflict.
going to bed... who knows what people will have come up with in the morning in response
I also agree with this, we have had issues in the past with certain people in our kingdom who are loud/obnoxious and it causes problems for the whole kingdom even if it's just one person. We've had to step up our efforts to keep our players in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
Ok, here is the statement from the kd being massacred:
We have nothing to do with the landgrab on the monarch of the opposing kingdom. It sometimes happens that newbies do not check if a kingdom is in war. You?re landfat and that made the province attack you.
You should have come to us and ask what is going on and we could have explained that we had nothing to do with this instead of crying about it on the forums.
If you knew me, you?d know I would never result to asking people for hits into war...
One more note: You are not unbreakable. We can already break you so why the hell would we ask someone else to hit you...
Also, you claim that you got hit and afterwards semi-chained... We havent placed on hit on you yet... You're not telling the storie right here on purpose...
Ddodge, you're a immature monarch thats getting pounded atm and in result runs into the forums to find a excuse and a way out...
Nope, no apology there.
MOAR BLOOD!
Start a semi chain on you? Seeing as how we haven't actually hit you a single time during this war, your accusation is complete garbage. Yeah, it makes so much sense that we would order an OOW hit on you for this "supposed chain" and then not attack you. You can stop it with the victim act and stop misconstruing the facts. Anyone who looks at a CE from your kingdom or ours will know your accusations have no ground in facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDodge
I don't know what Sookie actually said to you, but whatever it was, it was obviously a joke.
Anyone who wants the full paper and/or screenshot, feel free to PM me.
** Summary of (DDodge) (xx:xx) **
Net Gain: +240 acres (+334 / -94)
Total Uniques Made: 4 uniques
Total Attacks Made: 5 (334 acres)
-- Traditionnal Marches: 5 (334 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 1 (94 acres)
-- Traditionnal Marches: 1 (94 acres)
Jul 7 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Monarch) for 60 acres.
Jul 18 YR0 Anonymous province from (xx:xx) TM (DDodge) for 94 acres.
Jul 19 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 79 acres.
Jul 19 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 61 acres.
Jan 5 YR1 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 42 acres.
Jan 13 YR1 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 92 acres.
I don't know, the evidence brought forward does suggest that your kd (or at least 1 of your provs) takes responsibility for the attack... Realest's comment is very much true, sometimes you need to muzzle your peons, because their actions reflect on your kd as a whole
Looks like Ddogde isnt completly honest about this...
Also, DDodge, you're probably just mad that we caught you off guard. What do you expect us to do? Give you advance warning as to whether or not we'll war with you? It's not like you gave us advance warning when you waved us to push the meter to hostile. You gave us the button and we punished you for it.
I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy. If it comes to light that the evidence here is false and inadmissible, we'll hit into DDodge's kingdom. However, the "evidence" provided here doesnt show ****.
You do not need to hit him in war. There is no point. Damage has been done, lets just leave it... We are fighting a 1vs1 war and I'd like to keep it that way.
Hardly mad, we intentionally gave you the button, pity you couldnt hack it by yourself though.Quote:
Also, DDodge, you're probably just mad that we caught you off guard. What do you expect us to do? Give you advance warning as to whether or not we'll war with you? It's not like you gave us advance warning when you waved us to push the meter to hostile. You gave us the button and we punished you for it.
This is the last thing I am going to say about this...
You gave us the button, we waved, thats it. Ever since we are clearly ahead in uniques, provinces chained, acres exchanged, networth gained.
We do not need to put a single outside hit on your monarch and then leave him alone again to win this war.
It is a shame that instead of asking us about it, your immature monarch went into these forums and asked for strangers their help and sharing our location with them. I also find it rather sad that they did not further investigate and just listened to a little child asking them to hit us. If you would have come to me, we could have discussed this or even hit the dude making the outside hit afterwards.
Now I want to leave it at this. I find this way too much of a hassle/discussion about a couple of hits that dont even depict the outcome of this war. For my part, this thread is closed, no further discussion needed.
If you want proof, by all means, grab the news of my kd today and you have the full war paper there showing: "+306 acres: Optimus Prime (5/0)" and a whole lot of acres coming our way.
Good luck with the rest of the age everyone.
PM me locs so I can verify.
Taken from his paper and formatted by Prince: Optimus Prime (5/1)
Outside hit:
Jul 18 YR0 Anonymous province from (X:Y) TM Optimus Prime for 94 acres.
I am in that KD as well and I can assure you that DDodge is correct with the facts. They had an outside attack on Optimus because they could not do it themselves, Its low,Its dirty, and completely uncalled for and they deserve what they get for it. Learn how to play fair, Period
The facts were just stated by another outside person. One hit on Ddogde, which is the outside hit.
No chaning from what I can see.
ghetto justice is odd ...
Hey Vinnie!
Immature? Sure, maybe... yea i'll admit that action was immature. As far as finding out who you were/communicating... you didnt respond to a SINGLE PM, out of all the ones sent to you to discuss diplomacy, who you were, pre-war stuff, etc. (i even sent 3 mass PM's to your entire kd and heard crickets each time)
Your strategy worked, you caught us way off gaurd, and that was the first thing i posted in the war forums in fact :) But you can't talk about lack of communication here, it was you guys that failed to respond to anything, at one point we actually thought that you guys didnt speak english haha.
Anyways, ill be the first to congratulate you on a well fought war once this is over. You guys are very coordinated, very freakin active, and have great strategy. Everything that is needed in order to have a great war :)
Moar justice!!
imo.
I make no claim to know whether or not they called the attack in on him. All I did was verify that there was indeed no chain done on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasty
yeah well the nightmares/NS wave followed by an attempted chain has come. i dont know what i was saying before, they chained our biggest halfling first and dropped him like 970 acres their first wave, the hit on monarch was just to make sure he didnt get out of reach and they could keep him in range.
yea alchohol ftw.
@ ordray btw sorry about your kickers, that game was damn painful to watch. strange too, u'd think a university such as bama would have no problem recruiting top tier kickers!!
Indeed... 4 opportunities to win the game at home and we blew it. :\ I can guess what position that Saban is going to be recruiting for next year. Wish that we had someone like Van Tiffin. 135/135 on his extra point kicks.
honestly i was shocked. and i really hate LSU
DDodge, first what you need to learn is utopia are EVIL game. Second you really don't have friends if you need to ask in forum for "help". Next time when you get 1-2 oow hit, after war is over pay back same provinces, if you can, make it same way: when they go in war. Only this way you can TEACH them and get justice.
All this topic is just good food for trolls, for this they "help" you.
i have learned much since starting this thread elit. i thank you for your feedback
I dont really see this as a validation to acuse us of using these kinds of tactics... Oh and now that you play utopia, get used to ppl not telling you when they will wave you... You gave us the button, it's up to you guys to anticipate on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDodge
Besides that, it's not really strange that we didnt tell you who we were when you asked for it... We were HIDDEN. Ever heard of that?
lmfao. so realest IS in fact in a ghetto. knew it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkz Azn
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...lly-recruitingQuote:
Originally Posted by E_Boko
It isn't rocket science.
Some monarch dont want his lackey to speak to the enemy and I myself never speak to opposing kingdom until war is over.
So anyways for anyone that cares....
Congrats to Vinnie and Th and Co. for their war win. Really impressive activity from all attackers and especially your T/Ms that someone are logged on 24/7!!!! Great performance from the Charlie's Angels.
In regards to the OOW hit, while its 100% certain that Charlie's Angels had a province request his friend to hit into our war, i can confidently say that leadership had no part in it, after discussing things with them on IRC. Good group of leadership over there for sure.
gl hf rest of age ^_^
And I asked everyone and they said no. I think you misinterpreted the message or it was meant about someone else.
Also, the message you are refering to is not the one you put in the first post. The message in the first post doesnt even exist. You told me you got a message saying "gotta take care of my bro".
Anyway, good fight. You were active enough to last a couple of days..
Like someone would admit that after this ****storm :PQuote:
And I asked everyone and they said no.