Tiny favor, justice/fairlplay

[Realest]

Because ingame monarch is not always ingame leader. But lets say hes actually a peon. Then, whose problem is it that, as monarch, you cannot muzzle your kingdom? If your peons do not speak for you, then shut them up. Simple as that. Otherwise, as entity, what anyone in your kingdom says, reflects upon you entirely.

[Max Griswald]

"The Wise Lady Sookie of Sookie Stackhouse" --> For something as serious as this, why wouldn't you talk to the Monarch? Why would you ask some random province in the kd about it? I don't get it.

Not sure the exact situation here, but I will point out that with the new system, if I send a message as acting monarch, and then step down and become a Peasant, all messages I sent, and posts I made on the forums, identify me as a peasant, regardless of the fact that I was monarch when it was done. It could be that they switched monarchs before DDodge copied the message into IRC (Since he didn't copy the message right away).

[DDodge]

are you from that KD? i assume not, since if you were you would know they didnt respond to ANY messages for like 30 hours leading up to war.

part of me thinks you ARE the friend that hit into us. your time is over. also, we figured out who you were 10 hours later when the acres came in.

Also, im 99% over it, my gutshot reaction was to try and recruit a hit into our war to even it out. Part of me wishes i hadnt because we would have won the war regardless, but another part of me thinks this entire thing is hilarious and is a pretty cool message to everyone not to recruit help into a 1v1 conflict.

going to bed... who knows what people will have come up with in the morning in response

[Max Griswald]

Because ingame monarch is not always ingame leader. But lets say hes actually a peon. Then, whose problem is it that, as monarch, you cannot muzzle your kingdom? If your peons do not speak for you, then shut them up. Simple as that. Otherwise, as entity, what anyone in your kingdom says, reflects upon you entirely.

I also agree with this, we have had issues in the past with certain people in our kingdom who are loud/obnoxious and it causes problems for the whole kingdom even if it's just one person. We've had to step up our efforts to keep our players in line.

[xVinniex]

Ok, here is the statement from the kd being massacred:

We have nothing to do with the landgrab on the monarch of the opposing kingdom. It sometimes happens that newbies do not check if a kingdom is in war. You?re landfat and that made the province attack you.
You should have come to us and ask what is going on and we could have explained that we had nothing to do with this instead of crying about it on the forums.

If you knew me, you?d know I would never result to asking people for hits into war...

One more note: You are not unbreakable. We can already break you so why the hell would we ask someone else to hit you...

[xVinniex]

Also, you claim that you got hit and afterwards semi-chained... We havent placed on hit on you yet... You're not telling the storie right here on purpose...

Ddodge, you're a immature monarch thats getting pounded atm and in result runs into the forums to find a excuse and a way out...

[gergnub]

Nope, no apology there.

MOAR BLOOD!

[Hyth79]

In our current war the enemy KD had a friend hit our unbreakable province and knock him down to prevent him being UB and start a semi chain on him. I asked them why they had an outside province interfere, the response:

Start a semi chain on you? Seeing as how we haven't actually hit you a single time during this war, your accusation is complete garbage. Yeah, it makes so much sense that we would order an OOW hit on you for this "supposed chain" and then not attack you. You can stop it with the victim act and stop misconstruing the facts. Anyone who looks at a CE from your kingdom or ours will know your accusations have no ground in facts.

I don't know what Sookie actually said to you, but whatever it was, it was obviously a joke.

Anyone who wants the full paper and/or screenshot, feel free to PM me.

** Summary of (DDodge) (xx:xx) **

Net Gain: +240 acres (+334 / -94)
Total Uniques Made: 4 uniques
Total Attacks Made: 5 (334 acres)
-- Traditionnal Marches: 5 (334 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 1 (94 acres)
-- Traditionnal Marches: 1 (94 acres)

Jul 7 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Monarch) for 60 acres.
Jul 18 YR0 Anonymous province from (xx:xx) TM (DDodge) for 94 acres.
Jul 19 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 79 acres.
Jul 19 YR0 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 61 acres.
Jan 5 YR1 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 42 acres.
Jan 13 YR1 (DDodge) TM (Our Province) for 92 acres.

[vertigo]

I don't know, the evidence brought forward does suggest that your kd (or at least 1 of your provs) takes responsibility for the attack... Realest's comment is very much true, sometimes you need to muzzle your peons, because their actions reflect on your kd as a whole

[Spookies]

Looks like Ddogde isnt completly honest about this...

[Hyth79]

Also, DDodge, you're probably just mad that we caught you off guard. What do you expect us to do? Give you advance warning as to whether or not we'll war with you? It's not like you gave us advance warning when you waved us to push the meter to hostile. You gave us the button and we punished you for it.

[Realest]

I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy. If it comes to light that the evidence here is false and inadmissible, we'll hit into DDodge's kingdom. However, the "evidence" provided here doesnt show ****.

[xVinniex]

You do not need to hit him in war. There is no point. Damage has been done, lets just leave it... We are fighting a 1vs1 war and I'd like to keep it that way.

[Stingaaaa]

Also, DDodge, you're probably just mad that we caught you off guard. What do you expect us to do? Give you advance warning as to whether or not we'll war with you? It's not like you gave us advance warning when you waved us to push the meter to hostile. You gave us the button and we punished you for it.

Hardly mad, we intentionally gave you the button, pity you couldnt hack it by yourself though.

[xVinniex]

This is the last thing I am going to say about this...

You gave us the button, we waved, thats it. Ever since we are clearly ahead in uniques, provinces chained, acres exchanged, networth gained.

We do not need to put a single outside hit on your monarch and then leave him alone again to win this war.

It is a shame that instead of asking us about it, your immature monarch went into these forums and asked for strangers their help and sharing our location with them. I also find it rather sad that they did not further investigate and just listened to a little child asking them to hit us. If you would have come to me, we could have discussed this or even hit the dude making the outside hit afterwards.

Now I want to leave it at this. I find this way too much of a hassle/discussion about a couple of hits that dont even depict the outcome of this war. For my part, this thread is closed, no further discussion needed.

If you want proof, by all means, grab the news of my kd today and you have the full war paper there showing: "+306 acres: Optimus Prime (5/0)" and a whole lot of acres coming our way.

Good luck with the rest of the age everyone.