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I dont think u guys are the worst, nor do i think your list is an honest one if you were actually making a legit view from the outside. Anyway the thing is your actions as a kd inspire others to retaliate by acting out in poor form. If i were up top any deals with AMA would take that into consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
Did you read what elit said? i didnt even point anyone in particular and elit started flaming I quote "Thanks for your troll post. Sanctuary is one from two KDs involved in Double Hostile 2 ages ago and steal crown from AMA after ABS loss all his conflict in 1vs1. "
Whatever i said was in general as i have already said.Whichever allied group is stronger will dictate the game play,so people shouldnt be whining about getting powerplayed.
LOL, ama not lame play this age my ass ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
BB + AMA (some degree ej) think they are the police of utopia and has the right to tell everyone what they cant and can do, but trust me that only fly for a short time before people get tired of it, i for one had it with your big bully mentality and will fight for my own and other kingdoms to realise how evil you are. we just replced great evil abs with someone just as lame or more, anti abs has become the new abs.
Disgrace.
[QUOTE=Elit;15264884]I had chat with CIUPI, and he very honest and objective share his view but this was unofficial. Had chat with Hesus too but both wanted to consult with coss before give Fratzia official view on situation. I never got back official Fratzia position so you cant blame us now for deal.
No one is stop Fratzia from compete fair 1vs1 fight. After ABS gone there is no more Double hostiles past 2 ages :P
Ye its gonna be very fair, cant wait for it your lil alliance sitting waiting taking turns.
ooh and elit you should ask me about Things insted of waiting for the others im sure i can tell you how we feel about your powerplaying abusing lame ass abs alliance.
Feel free to edit the list. Also 95% of our critics are not outsiders but the other side in the argument. So how so our actions inspire others to retaliate in poor form? There were never farm wars, double hostile, dealbreaks before us? How so you can justify any bad play with our actions, even if they are not related to a conflict? Like ED running away from Fratzia? Or Pewpew farming out to Rage, despite the fact we didn't do anything wrong to them this age? Or maybe you are trying to say that trashtalk on forums justifies such kind of play ingame? And that all kds that did these acts have no responsibility whatsoever for what they did? And before you say that they are bad as us or worse. I can not but share that i didn't see you condemn what pewpew did. Also please refer to how many deals did we break since we exist as a kd 4-5 ages ago? Make a list and express your opinion. Otherwise i don't understand your warning to others when they deal with us.
P.S. I have a question for you. How so we are dealbreakers and dishonest. And still we are the ones that kept their allies and Pewpew and others lost their?
P.P.S. Oh yeah, we did lame play. We forced Rage to keep their farmed land from Pewpew. That is so much worse than hitting into real war, farming out to shape the charts, fwing and so on.
You are keeping your Allies becouse they benefit from it, and you are in a spot to powerplay WHO ever you want, but lets see in the long run if that will be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
Coming from some1 who hits into wars that's just rich. Cry more imo ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
Comming from someone WHO is the great teacher of this trick ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
How can u see what will happen in the long run when u quit the game? Or w8, u decided to stay coz ur words mean ****? Was expected tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
You are just as slow as the NeXT ama drone Arent you ?, i never quit, im pretty sure that was mike, but then again being a lil slow i know that is hard to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
wait i forgot i had to ask ama before retireing my old nick and embracing my new nick/mentality.
Even last age AMA was not 1st kd who hit into wars. There was SWEA and Absalom be4 us, but u don't want to blame them, coz u only hate AMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
Hater gonna hate, trolls gonna troll, mike is mike ;)
Last i remember your kd said we can't hit ED into their runaway war, just raze them. Later when we switched places you had no problem to hit into war and we didn't force you not to. Funny thing how your accusation of us policing you falls apart.
Also despite the policing we did you are the only kd with no nap with Rage. Again I see how cruel we are to you.
I must say i have nothing against Fratzia, I just dislike haters.
U can change ur nicks as much as u want, but ur **** u did this age will stay forever with u and u can't change that fact. Live with it now, and whenever u will start judging AMA for anything I am gonna keep reminding u abt ur **** ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
You can remind all you like, the fact is you know very Little about utopia, and your history tells this story clear hell you dident even play this game when it was the real utopia, you talk and behalf of something others told you or you think you might know, but it is ok, you are clearly just and idiot, anyways i can judge ama all i want but in the long run i wont be the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
That signature of yours is really hilarious always a laugh looking at it lol,priceless.
mike, MegasX and rest who say we did power play Rage. This deal was suggested from rage and none from us was feeling its fair to accept it but we decide to make compromise and accept it.
Its sad how some people wanted action vs rage so they can use this for his personal interest.
Well considering u hit into wars in ur 1st age of kd, I am sure in the long run I am gonna have long list of ****s u did in this game. And I am sure I won't be the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
And yeah ur bragging that u played Utopia since beta prolly is rly cute. Should I quit Utopia coz I started later than u? Am I not allowed to express my opinion, coz I started playing in Age ~20 and u already had crowns be4 (which I doubt)?
Feel free to post my history btw, I am rly curious now ;)
If you dont know my history by hart (when did they stop giving out my abc on this game ?) you are probly not worthy to know it. (This could be said with a hint of something smelly ...). just so moronic tools dont read something diffrent into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
We hit into a war so what, im sure the NeXT war ama go into it will happen to them also since they are the once that came up with the system where others can deem a war fake at any time.
Relly dont care for one second what kinda part you had in the deal made, just the fact that you think you have **** say in anything, what others do make me puke, you lost every lil credibility you had last age and is nothing but a power hungry moronic lil tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
We do not accept you as the new police, and the fact you think you are just make it alot more sweet when it will show you are not.
Ama lost more then 1 Crown becouse you think you are the master of all us Black slaves, im sure it can happen again ?
I know ur kds were fully deleted out of game for extreme cheating. Also I know ur butthurt abt AMA 24/7. Do I rly need to know anything else abt u, troll? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
Feel free to post ur history here btw ;)
CIUPI, have told me you are just toll. Look like you active trying to support and increase forum activity. Keep they good job ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
Nice try troll, this topic is not about me, but more about how lame AMA (elit) BB (Flogger) + that other kingdom EJ is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
Forcing a perfect legit kingdom as rage (or what ever new name is) into a deal if they did not they get GB, that is how lame the new ABS is.
same thing was done last age also.
Ofc im a troll look at my nameQuote:
Originally Posted by Elit
This is not about forum activity this is about you and your power triping spineless gb alliance.
First of all...what a crock of ****ing ****. Second of all...what a crock of ****ing ****. Third of all...what a crock of ****ing ****.
A pious tyrant is still a ****ing tyrant.
Great job Drixx and others, and hope this works out!
It worked out for any1 involved, only Evultroll is not happy for some reason ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeni
Drixx were you forced into anything mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by EvulTroll
I would also like to apologize for being accusatory re war circumstances when my information basically came from trying to synthesize the 35 pages of threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
Think that feeling was there because Utopia has such a deep history of fine-line morality every age that it has become incredibly difficult to trust and believe that a kingdom will stand by its word.
In addition, seemingly everyone in Utopia gets forgiven no matter how poorly they act. I think this may be because it's too difficult to not play somewhat selfishly each age, because policing actions from previous ages would just set your own age back, and then you would be accused of breaking the code of honor. So are kingdoms able to self-police and make changes in case of ****tiness? i.e., demand that those responsible for ****play in Pew Pew step down.
It is made pretty clear in the OP that if Rage didn't agree to landdrop or otherwise stop growing they were going to get GB'd by EJ, AMA, and BB. I'd call that being threatened.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzy|
Nowhere does it say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Bio used to 2v1 someone just because they weren't able to beat that kd in fair 1v1 just for perspective, which is worlds away from "policing" someone for actions that have unfair impact on community. This is "I can win 1v1 vs you so will look for help"
Didn't your kingdom dealbreak sonata in its first age because it was farming BenM or BenQ's kingdom? Didn't that end up starting an alliance war 2 ages later?Quote:
Originally Posted by MegasX
Farming is bad, and people who say "ooooh look abs is gone and now the same thing is happening" abs wasn't always wrong (in fact more often was right compared to non-abs), if they were they wouldn't have lasted 50 ages.
There were 2 sets of 3 kds that pre-age CF'd, one side is 8/9 and one side is 4/8. Had havoc, ED and Rage been 1/2/3 does anyone think for a second they would let me farm 70k from pew pew without coming up with some sort of similar deal or else get **** played?
lets all be friends and hug!
You do know that farming intentionally was done in previous ages and abs didnt threaten kds because they farmed right? My kd sanc was denied crown when simians triple noticed.But we didnt throw flamefeast because of it.We just let it go.So what makes u think currently the kds which were formerly abs would force deal on someone? But anyways i was just saying whichever alliance is stronger will dictate flow of action.I am not against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Its was result from ABS bad diplo with Simians. You pushed them so hard and they farmed out. KD got acres was one from your ally kds and you can easy solve it in your ally private channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MegasX
Elit we didnt do bad diplomacy,neither did we provoke them in noticing us.Simians did it themselves,with intention to slow down whole top.They made us train up,waste resources,then farmed out.they ducked into a farm war after notice expired.
As I shall soon demonstrate none of this is anything new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
It's always been that way, this is nothing new, I can point to several similar events, at least one including Rage. So yeah, nothing to see here move along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
This was already established last age when AMA hit into PewPew vs Debauchery, nothing to see here move along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
That's just a subsection of the previously established rule that Havoc established a few ages ago that it's ok to hit into a conflict if you noticed. And it was reconfirmed again last age by SWE A when they hit into PewPew vs I forgot who.Nothing new here, move alongQuote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
See #2 and #3, it's already an established precedent, move along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Thats just an addendum to the previously established precedent that when threatened by the domineering alliance(in that case Abs) farmout or resetting is the correct action. Which in itself is merely adding a third option "Get creative" to a previously established precedent that when threatened by an alliance either submit or get gb'ed. Exception: if you have an alliance of your own, start an alliance war. Nothing new to see here, move along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Merely the logical extension of the precedent that it's ok to hit into an active conflict set by Havoc, also see #2, #3, #4 so merely a variation of something already establishedQuote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
That's just a variation of a precedent set by Bishop that certain arranged wars are indeed fake wars, nothing new here move along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Also, as a previous member of Abs, gg hypocrite, your alliance already established a lot of the points you tried to make.
Can anyone explain to me how this deal is unfair to RBL?
They had 0% chance to crown this age. They're sitting on no science. Once their CF's expired it would have been farmville (and I say that with all due respect to Drixx+RBL)
Likewise, RBL isn't being punished for having the dice roll their way, which was the biggest issue with RBL coming to an agreement. They get to keep everything they earned.
So it's not fair because...?
I've never been a member of Abs, nor have I been allied with Abs in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
While the case can be made that all of these things have occurred in the past, it has never been the case that an alliance, Absalom for example, dictates the terms of NAPs between other kingdoms or decided what was or was not a valid hostile. Nor do I recall Absalom threatening to GB a kingdom they have CFs with unless they roll over and die.