Sheister vs Sampuan

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Originally Posted by citadela01

Ppl are overthinking it I feel. This is not meta, resource or whatnot matter.

They lost unloosable war and now need to push us around from position of strength to ... i dont know ... prove something ? pamper their ego ?
w/e ... nothing we can rly do other than sit tight and wait it out, when they decide they had enough we both get to walk away with one friend less.

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Seriously Nesta told you that if you guys want to drag this out until forever we are happy to abide and there is no CF in that scenario. Now you are coming to the forums to cry about it? Seriously? Grow a spine chump.

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

its good that you brought up the context part - because i just cant see the context here, and this is the main part of the discussion imo.. we have no problems with getting waved or not, we have been waved countless of times and its part of the game.. the interesting part of the situation is, pyro doesnt seem to have a context rly - they just want to be the 'winner', and trying to make up some ultimate goal out of thin air to claim the title.. im still asking though, what is that goal? take 20k acres? take us down to 10k acres kdwide? razekill 5 of our provs? what is it?

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Bang on the money! And I agree... Pyros end game is a bit of a conundrum.

Since the war-tier meta is what it is, FS can safely ignore Pyro pounding on them. Since the point of the game to FS is to war, what do they really care about Pyro flapping their arms around and doing a few waves. For FS, the game resets with a new war, they'll prep against a new target of their choosing, and they'll do what they want to do - keep on warring. No matter Pyro. Guess they could razekill into war. But even OOW razekilling wouldn't be much more than a slight annoyance to FS. They will have to pick a weaker war target than they otherwise would - so? And Pyro in turn have nothing to gain on fighting someone that doesn't fight back since they too are not in the growth tier...

...the above logic is what upholds the war-tier meta and which makes sure that b2bs rarely happens, or other types of enforced play. Being pounded upon is no biggie. Since growth doesn't matter. To me, that is a problem. For others, that is a good thing :)

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

Stops you from opping them back and taking honour, maybe softening you for their smaller provs that lost a lot?

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having practiced oow honor a lot, no it doesnt make sense on that front neither..

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

having practiced oow honor a lot, no it doesnt make sense on that front neither..

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War is just a stance. You had no problem killing our T/M science and wizards in war, but now you have a problem because you no longer have war stance?

You were warned not to do that. Now get lost and let us be.

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Originally Posted by bombdigie

Seriously Nesta told you that if you guys want to drag this out until forever we are happy to abide and there is no CF in that scenario. Now you are coming to the forums to cry about it? Seriously? Grow a spine chump.

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have a clue please, i dunno what lies nesta been feeding to the kd but the only time cf was brought up in our convo with nesta was, when he thought we are farming your sci to wd and hunt other kds, but this scenario was far from the truth.. there was never any talk about a cf refusal if the war kept going longer - ofc you have all the rights to refuse a cf, but no need to lie about stuff to show yourself in a better light..

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Originally Posted by bombdigie

War is just a stance. You had no problem killing our T/M science and wizards in war, but now you have a problem because you no longer have war stance?

You were warned not to do that. Now get lost and let us be.

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please explain how we killed your tm science?

Gaining 120 honour points per hit and likely bit more on your honour heavy provinces hurts though, and if not for honour I'm pretty sure with FS usual war wins (how many this age? 3? 4?), you'll be sweet targets for pyro to gain lost science back.

SaMpuaN if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Release your defense specs on your TM, and bounce attack your elites where you are on land defense, and we will make this short and sweet. Otherwise prepare for war dog meat!

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

have a clue please, i dunno what lies nesta been feeding to the kd but the only time cf was brought up in our convo with nesta was, when he thought we are farming your sci to wd and hunt other kds, but this scenario was far from the truth.. there was never any talk about a cf refusal if the war kept going longer - ofc you have all the rights to refuse a cf, but no need to lie about stuff to show yourself in a better light..

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I can write whatever I want, but ultimately you know I'm the wrong person to be talking to. ;)

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Originally Posted by bombdigie

I can write whatever I want, but ultimately you know I'm the wrong person to be talking to. ;)

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its a pleasure calling you out on your lies though..

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

Citadela with that comment I can't help but think back to last age when you completely destroyed a kd just course you could from a favourable position, and then FS answer was "grow and take it back".

This is not to have a go at FS but to show you why I didn't like the way you played it last age, bullying a smaller kd for their honour just because you could.

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I could point out to many differences but i wont.

We can all play lawyers here and look for precedents as its age-old utopian practice, but in the end its pretty clear case of buthurt and everyone knows it. Since on the receiving end we have everyone's favorite KD's aka FS there wont be much sympathy here.

So be it, Pyro is in their right to wave and we cant do **** about it now. They will have their fun for as long as they feel like it and than we will both walk away.
I said it earlier and I dont mind repeating it, its a shame to end friendship this way. I am very nice guy so this entire affair leaves bad taste in my mouth, even if others dont give a **** about it.

To you this is flashback to last age, to me its flashback to cj incident.

You seem to think there is some authoritative figure that is going to be like, "oh you bombdigie being a bombdigie again!!! Shame on you!!!"

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Originally Posted by citadela01

I could point out to many differences but i wont.

We can all play lawyers here and look for precedents as its age-old utopian practice, but in the end its pretty clear case of buthurt and everyone knows it. Since on the receiving end we have everyone's favorite KD's aka FS there wont be much sympathy here.

So be it, Pyro is in their right to wave and we cant do **** about it now. They will have their fun for as long as they feel like it and than we will both walk away.
I said it earlier and I dont mind repeating it, its a shame to end friendship this way. I am very nice guy so this entire affair leaves bad taste in my mouth, even if others dont give a **** about it.

To you this is flashback to last age, to me its flashback to cj incident.

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Would it make you happy if I were to type that I was a buthurt so that everyone can know it? Everything else you just typed is way too psychological for this thread. Nice try though. What ever helps you sleep better at night.

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Originally Posted by bombdigie

SaMpuaN if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Release your defense specs on your TM, and bounce attack your elites where you are on land defense, and we will make this short and sweet. Otherwise prepare for war dog meat!

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Maybe start whoring again, it's clear you guys have more talent in that ;)

What's funny in this whole situation is FS did more to damage there long term goals by not surrendering. Because most war tier if not all of the tier will not fight a kingdom who demands a 50% nw win. I know my kingdom will never war FS in the future regardless of advantage. Because I know FS will never surrender and who wants a month war. Most war kingdoms want 2 to 7 day wars. Nothing more, net and land determine the winner. Clean simple then we move on to fight someone else win or lose. To fill the scoreboard as it where. So now FS becomes that kingdom that even if you win you lose. Hope FS enjoys whoring because I don't see many kingdoms willing to war them in the future.