Imo rich that coss talks about others craving attention, how many times have you rage quit now coss?
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Imo rich that coss talks about others craving attention, how many times have you rage quit now coss?
What does dubai leaving leadership have to do with anything? Why do you keep bringing that up over and over again?Quote:
Originally Posted by coss
Dubai was leading before the first war. You made a deal with him and topsy that both you and CRS agreed to.
You later, agreeing that deal exists, wanted to say that the first war didn't count as far as that deal is concerned and that we needed to b2b to see who "wins".
Only after our LS started saying "Nah, you withdrew, therefore we win, where's our land" did you start claiming that the deal wasn't valid, and at no point before that.
As long as you thought the deal benefited you, you were happy to acknowledge it, as soon as it didn't, you pretended it never happened.
Even now, weeks later, you wanted 35k land (20%) after this war so you could fight emeriti or else you won't CF.
So really, get lost. You can wave us all you want.
But you're never getting a round 3 out of us, and you aren't getting us to farm you land so you can crown.
Meep, Dubai was the only that talked with me and I know exactly what I talked with him. You have been in any talks with us about any deal? No, you were not. So just please stop talking about things you have no idea.
No offense, but I have a feeling you and Korp are alike, just speak nonsense so people give you the least attention.
PS: I am ignoring trolls like Korp, wonder if he is already on the national TV on top of a building threatening with the jumping.
You know, except for the part where you told me that you were in a group chat on sapp with dubai, topsy, and others but couldn't provide logs of it because you left the conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by coss
Roflmao. Coss almost made me spit out my coffee right onto this screen with the suicide comment. I've not laughed so hard in ages lolQuote:
Originally Posted by coss
hahahaha!!!1oneone!!1 haha kill yourself jokes are so funny, truly the epitome of modern humor, ohhhhh man that was good. so funneh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePuncher
Knock it off coss
Calling Korp suicidal --> warning
Calling Korp fat --> 3 day ban
Pointing this out --> perman
Hf utocommunity, Ill miss yall ;)
Its like prison, repeat offenders dont get any leniency. I dont get any warnings either when im banned. :(
You repeatedly called Korp fat after more than one warning to stop (iirc).
Edit: went back and looked. Seems I'm wrong. All of the insults, bans, warnings, and reported posts from that thread got all mashed up in my memory lol
as always feel free to message mods if you have any comments or concerns regarding moderation.
Have a swirvey day! :D
Pam, I was in your and Strato's state yesterday. How come yinz didnt meet up?? hmmm hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Was not invited.
Sad.
Binar you play in Emeriti. That is AquaSeaFoams kd. You are an absies.
Finally someone understood the meaning of this thread!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick_mi
And all of u talking all the nosense... :))
ASF doesnt play in MY kd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick_mi
Congrats to WSK for the warwin :) Looking forward to see what happens nxt
Yes that is barts style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Should have done it. You'd have benefitted more from a war with Spartans than this fiasco.
As for the war, I don't care you hit into theirs or that they dodged you. Your cfs (almost all cfs) are ludicrous. Besides its about time cr get this treatment.
I was slowly dying of hypothermia counting breadsticks and the count was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximo
And I got it cRs. This is the new compact era.
Alliances are now kingdoms.
Kingdoms are now provinces.
I'm running the coolest compact kingdom under 300 acres.
CFs are indeed crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
They're even crazier when people argue over whether deals count or not depending on where you agree to them.
The top is dead.
It's a shame the rest of the so called top kingdoms decided to the reward wsk for their own leadership's stupidity and greed. They could have avoided this whole fiasco if any ONE of these things happened:
1) They made sure cfs with other large kds were in order
2) They didn't greedily leave post war cf early on 20k def orcs
3) They didn't rebuff an eoacf offer and instead claimed the conflict was still ongoing after they were waved by Gurch+friends
What were we supposed to do in that spot? Let them get an easy farm war, come oow 30k acres bigger than us and then war again? Why shouldn't we hit when they say there's an ongoing conflict? Even with the razes they still ended up well ahead in acres from that joke war, and it gave them time to prep wpa in cows. Any advantage we gained from winning the first war was completely thrown away. It's not a reasonable expectation to have us sit there twiddling our thumbs while wsk becomes more threatening when we were in position to have a reasonable b2b fight. Instead Eastern European tears trumped basic logic, and BB/Sparta (and emeriti's inaction) made it a losing situation.
Oh and thanks coss for not using your army of romanian multis to raze our chained. How noble of you. Brag all you want. You're only in the position you're in because other kingdoms decided that you're allowed to benefit from massive misplays.
1) we had our cfs in order... never thought gurch and co will come after us as we didnt ever asked them for 1 single acre(compared to ur ld on them for 6k acred just before our war...). And hey u had a open cf with them too. They told us they wanted to wave us or u...Quote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
2) u left war with 20k def fae on 4k acres.. so offcourse we followed u to catch the fort benefits..
3) for real? U have no ideea what was talked? we asked u for cf, u refused and came with a silly counter offer to war us after CR baby with us droping our land and our banks... but again u had a CF offer wich u refused
But meh in a kd with 25 leaders... offcourse everyone hears and sees what they want only.
So stop finding excuses for u to wave us in war. There was no excuse for it (YOU HAD A CF OFFER THE MOMENT CR JUNIOR WAVED US). But dont worry what comes @ goes @...
1) Obviously not or you wouldn't have been waved.Quote:
Originally Posted by cRs
2) We had our cfs in order because unlike you we aren't dumbasses. We might be lazy and inactive and sometimes train drunk, but we aren't stupid.
3) Bull****. You've already changed your story on the deal a half dozen times to suit you. There's no way I'm believing your crap.
The fact of the matter is that our only mistake was not razing for more acres before your tears reached other kingdoms. Maybe then we could have had close to a fair second war as the advantages from the b2b could have remained in place. That probably wasn't going to happen since you got some friends to db us anyway.
Only one who should worry about what comes around goes around is you. Your word is completely worthless.
1,2 and 3.. all are prooven... maybe reread our 1st thread.
U just woke up from a long drunk or ur just... meh my words is worthless annyway :)
As our kd name says.. see ya next age dear CR - will proove our words then (if u still survive till then offcourse)
All arguments here don't matter, coss has history of raze into wars of those that run so cr had precedence to follow.
Pump and wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
The real reason for the round 2 and 3. Is cos you waved us repeatedly last age b2b2b when you were more than 50% larger than us. So we decide to get big and kick your a*s till end of age or when you finally decide to bend over.
We were already pumped and out of whoring range. No matter how much deeper we drafted we wouldn't have been able to get around them being massively ahead of us thanks to clash royale feeding them a bunch of acres and more importantly giving them undeserved prep time.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
ok, so now that this is winding down...
who needs a hug?
cRs and Meep need a threeway hug with you. =]Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Ill take one too.
Can please clarifyQuote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
How many acres did Clash Royale farmed to WSK that resulted in CR failed war?
What was the acres size before and start of war?
Also, what is the acres starting size when CR and WSK started Round 2 war?
So when WSK is engaging in a war with Clash Royale, isn't CR having more time to stock and prep for the conflict?
So let assume if Emeriti failed to win WSK later on, are they going to blame it on CR for feeding WSK cow to 33k acres
I specifically said acres AND prep time. A +1 mana/tick full tog kd with 8/0 offspecs is brutal in a b2b provided they get the spec credits in the first leg. This is painfully obvious and also why the ww was so important in a b2b, especially given the setups. WSK's orcs were decimated in the first leg which forced the withdraw. By war end they could muster about 250k offense max. By the time round 2 was due to start they were able to get 600k on their top end orcs with most lagging behind. Several of the chained ones could only muster about 250k off. Their cows had to focus their own military which left no room to aid those orcs up to fighting shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusticeLeague
Fast forward to clash royale losing. The prep time speed advantage of faery was gone. WSK's orcs had decent acres again and could muster about 800k off top end and 600k bottom end. Their cows got another week of wpa gains which took fb out of the equation. Their heretics used the post war spec credits to get os. Hell, even with the razes, wsk had more acres than CR. If we hadn't razed the situation undoubtedly would have been worse.
OOW we couldn't stock because it was stocking to no ends. Where does the extra gold go when you're already at a pretty reasonable effectiveness? Not science, not military, not exploring with no pool. There was no one to hit as the overwhelming majority of provs were out of whore range. Faery's strength is short term prepping.
Now I got it. Perhaps you should continue razing...Will there be a round 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
Next age: faery warriors vs orc sages.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusticeLeague
So you tell that Cr didn't pump wizards, I think even better because wsk cows must run lower guilds due war with Clash.Quote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
Next one your chained fayres don't have much army if the conflict started and they will be meat for orcs even with 250k offense, which will bring them were they were before to double self.
So for me no matter what happen wsk will beat you, because they will do what they did in b2b, mass mystics and drop rest with ops to core range, maybe slower but the end will be same.
Can you please read more that one reply before you post? In order to maybe understand what the guy sais?Quote:
Originally Posted by ivan
what the guy said was alot of crap excuses, CR had all the time in the world to get ready, but the new LS and new players has no idea what they are doing = crap and would drop to wsk any day of the week, not even with 2 weeks prep would CR have a chance, im sad to say this but dang they need godly back and themango becouse the rest is just lost. no clue nubs.
round 3 will be brutal, CR made clear they wont give max metere back it means that will be even up to the point where wsk will just farm them out of range, no absie or spartans will lift a finder to help them.
They might get that "loner" kingdom to help them, you know the location we cant give but who feed them acers early age while fought everyone else, but i gusse that is the only kingdom who will aid them, are you guys running that on a munk updated login site CR ? or is it just old players ?
Mike your bias is showing.
Are you still in RoO? Or have you rejoined coss?
Wsk were severely disadvantaged in the b2b til they dodged. WW credits plus tog and spec train, cr had upper hand. Sure they could have blew it like the first war, but coss dodging helped wsk beyond belief.
Yesterday mike told me that he only speaks facts and todays he's accusing CR having a friendly ghetto and that they are xlogging lol. Lots of facts there..
Who knows? It depends on how reasonable people are, and if this age has taught me anything there's a good shortage of reason across the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusticeLeague
I don't know what to tell you then besides you probably didn't get intel from our end. I don't blame you because casino royale hit you, and you were probably focusing your efforts on them. Even the chained faeries were back up to 400k def, and they were so small you really could only gain from them via downfeeds. They'd get overwhelmed like the first war, but instead of your 14 orcs only being able to hit 10 from the first leg you'd have your 14 orcs only being able to break 6-8 provs before things leveled out. The previous UB used the pop space + spec credits for os and your cows were in a rough position where if they sent out they were hittable by our upper core.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivan
And pumping wpa wasn't much of a reasonable option considering pop space limits everyone's actions. This is why I keep saying faery's biggest strength is pumping fast. But when you reach those ends its over. Either you gain acres or waste time. I can't pump wpa on 2-4 ppa. If I release army to pump wpa then my province is going to be weaker than if I didn't bother to begin with.
Mike, I <3 you but you're either not reading or just trolling. Prep time is meaningless out of whoring range up to a certain point. There's no gold sink like science of ages past, and you can only be so pumped on your acres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike^
TheMango's, Godly's, Zauper's, etc. voids have been felt all age. No doubt. It put strain on everyone else. Any kingdom including 3-peat crown winners Emeriti would suck if their top 3-4 leaders quit the game. That's really what happened here. But to be fair I have some idea what I'm doing at least with province management. I did manage to bounce a couple of big hits on me when wsk chained me in the 2nd war. We weren't gonna win, but I'd at least annoy them. I'm pretty sure they ended up oversending after a while.
In hostile period, Clash Royale hit almost exclusively the faeries and the forth smaller bank (which lost 1700 acres in hostile only and was ultimately lost in that war).
wSk lost over 6k very important acres (due to their distribution) in one wave, in a period of time when the whole server knew about our ongoing conflict with CR. Would've this been annoying for everyone? Would've this been painful for everyone?
As a parenthesis, here are some circumstances that allowed wSk to think that there was more involved in this than is visible:
- Leaders of Clash Royale and wSk were friends before this incident [crs and Gurch (hope that i spelled his name correctly) had a history together since the latter played in Sanitarium];
- Their CF was set on a friendly basis, wSk had no intention of breaking it;
- Clash Royale gave acres to CR before the first war with wSk (this should've been an alarm signal);
- Clash Royale broke their CF once more, just before the first war between wSk/CR (no hits were exchanged BUT a lot of money were stolen - wSk had to change their entire hostile tactic due to this) (a second alarm signal, this time it should've been like an aviation alarm).
In war wSk received 100 (that's ONE HUNDRED) razes from CR for a grand total of @17k acres (calculated with http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/).
wSk gained around 15k acres from its war with Clash Royale. If we subtract the 6k lost in hostile, there are only @9k gained from Clash vs 17k razed by CR.
wSk only added significant acres on one bank (like @4k acres) and approximately 2k on another.
wSk lost 6k acres on the forth bank (losing it for good - currently he's at core level acreage) and over 8k acres on the faeries in the war with Clash Royale.
In the meantime, while performing 100 razes on wSk, CR had all the time in the world to pump/gather money/explore (these added to the WW credits/bonus from the first war).
After its war with Clash Royale, wSk started the second war with CR and clearly won.
Now, why wSk won the second war:
- its LS was sleeping like 3-4 hours per night at most (both crs and coss were like non-stop on whatsapp - crs had his driving license taken away by police for texting and driving);
- due to the previous wars/skirmishes between the two kingdoms (last age we warred twice in uneven conditions with CR being more than double in size) wSk had an above the average activity;
Why CR lost the second war (LE):
- their new LS didn't knew how to play its banks (they lost all 3 banks in the first war);
- it lacked a clear strategy/tactics (in both wars);
- it lacked activity (in the second war) (they even had a casualty soon after the war due to this reason).
In conclusion, we never dodged the second war with CR because we want it to. We were waved by Clash Royale, while preparing a second war with CR (with less then 24 hours before our wave on CR). We lost crucial acres (on a bank and on t/m's) in this wave. The wave itself was weird, due to the circumstances presented above. We lost 8k acres in the conflict with both Clash and CR.
And we still beat them in the second war.
P.S. I'm still waiting for the clear evidence of the "30% - solid agreement" between the two kingdoms.