Republic of Octobrev - Double Hostile w/ Strippers & ghetto

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Don't get personal.

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Originally Posted by Korp

... and not a ***** personaity that takes everything personally.

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GG really.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

GG really.

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You are free to report a post if you like, you being salty will help nobody. :(

I'm not salty. I'm just wondering what it is that you would need to do to get a ban Dear Friend.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

I'm not salty. I'm just wondering what it is that you would need to do to get a ban Dear Friend.

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Telling someone they have a ***** personality isnt getting personal. And I been banned quite a lot, in fact i think im like fourth or fifth in the top ranking of active posters whos been banned. Just stop it Matija, its patethic when you desperately want to be part of a crowd. You try too hard.

I really have no interest being a part of your crowd. You are being personal, like that post alone, what is that, is it Utopia related?

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

GG really.

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Learn to use the report button. Do not reply on thread.

Go DD!

:D

Looks like DD will walk home with another loss.

World peace is finally at hand. Thank you Korp.

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Originally Posted by Korp

in fact i think im like fourth or fifth in the top ranking of active posters whos been banned.

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Really? Where's this list at?

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Originally Posted by Palem

Really? Where's this list at?

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In my head! :D I placed, Steel, Bart and octo before me and for good measure i threw in another random posters that im sure. wait, got it Mike (dunno if we can call him active though!)

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Originally Posted by Korp

I guess you would punch a kid as well when they were mouthing off against you cause thats the adult thing to do... We have seen Arwen deny those accusations and we have a good relation with Arwen and her kingdom. You on the other hand have a history of lying so.. But you are so keen about talking about being an adult a grown up, but still you just show such childish attitudes "He started it!!111!" lol. Do you solve issues like this IRL as well?


We wouldnt been in this mess if this was a top kingdom. They dont have the interest and they have the diplomactic skills to avoid issues like this. My kingdom in its many shapes have had many run ins with "top kingdoms" and it always ended with them CFing us. Thats the difference between you and top kingdoms quality and not a ***** personality that takes everything personally.

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Strangely Korp, my mind wouldn't even connect razing Sheister with punching a child. Interesting that yours seems to. Says more about you than me.

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Originally Posted by Korp

I guess you would punch a kid as well when they were mouthing off against you cause thats the adult thing to do... We have seen Arwen deny those accusations and we have a good relation with Arwen and her kingdom. You on the other hand have a history of lying so.. But you are so keen about talking about being an adult a grown up, but still you just show such childish attitudes "He started it!!111!" lol. Do you solve issues like this IRL as well?


We wouldnt been in this mess if this was a top kingdom. They dont have the interest and they have the diplomactic skills to avoid issues like this. My kingdom in its many shapes have had many run ins with "top kingdoms" and it always ended with them CFing us. Thats the difference between you and top kingdoms quality and not a ***** personality that takes everything personally.

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To be fair we've never gotten a CF from Simians/Pandas!

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Originally Posted by Korp

In my head! :D I placed, Steel, Bart and octo before me and for good measure i threw in another random posters that im sure. wait, got it Mike (dunno if we can call him active though!)

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+1 this is a good list

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Originally Posted by Pillz

To be fair we've never gotten a CF from Simians/Pandas!

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Please, I wrote "top kingdoms".


Abi no? Cause that wouldnt been the craziest things ive seen coming from you. Consider that you tend to accuse people that dont agree with you for being pedohpiles, stalkers and sexual predators amongst other things.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Please, I wrote "top kingdoms".

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Strangely Korp, my mind wouldn't even connect razing Sheister with punching a child. Interesting that yours seems to. Says more about you than me.

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Don't worry Abi, Korp will make this world a better place by bringing more misery into it, somehow it will work out, I promise.

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Originally Posted by Palem

Really? Where's this list at?

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It's the old Sinners KD page.

Seriously?

No.

Might as well be

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

How short one must be to so consistently have things go over their head. Do you want to answer part two of that question that Legba is avoiding?



Which is how we got here after all. No one should respect this ghetto's hostiles or wars anymore. And anyone that wants to see change in utopia should raze them.



I paint with such a broad brush for them yet still...

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Nah you're aiming below the belt. Perhaps you're not tall enough to aim any higher. Talk about any stick to beat DD with - plunder before war is used by tons of kingdoms, you gonna call them out too? No you're not. You're just stirring the pot. Or acting as an echo chamber for Korp and mates.

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

I only posted what she said Sheister.

You told Arwen you would stick around and help her out. You sent a message to my steward saying you wanted to stay and help them out, and now you admit freely that you lied in order to gain breathing room to build so that you could continue your little grudge.

Have to say it's a little rich to be accused of lying by someone who has been spouting BS since this whole thing started. Move out of your glass house before you throw the next one Sheister.

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No dearie, you are confusing kingdoms. The last kingdom was the one that I made that offer to your steward on. Try again sweetums.

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Originally Posted by Sweetiepie

Nah you're aiming below the belt. Perhaps you're not tall enough to aim any higher. Talk about any stick to beat DD with - plunder before war is used by tons of kingdoms, you gonna call them out too? No you're not. You're just stirring the pot. Or acting as an echo chamber for Korp and mates.

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Are you okay with people plundering outside KDs when you give them a button and then pressing the button and using those funds to buy dragons etc? Or are you defending it because you stopped being (or never were) objective? How much is okay to plunder and then dodge via war? Defend it without saying, "But everyone else was doing it!" Pathetic.

I will gladly stand with those that are against people using outside sources to fund their wars. Feel free to start forum topics about it, if I see them I will gladly call out chit players like this ghetto.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Are you okay with people plundering outside KDs when you give them a button and then pressing the button and using those funds to buy dragons etc? Or are you defending it because you stopped being (or never were) objective? How much is okay to plunder and then dodge via war? Defend it without saying, "But everyone else was doing it!" Pathetic.

I will gladly stand with those that are against people using outside sources to fund their wars. Feel free to start forum topics about it, if I see them I will gladly call out chit players like this ghetto.

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We weren't tagged hostile. Why don't you get this?

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Originally Posted by Papa Legba

We weren't tagged hostile. Why don't you get this?

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You're still avoiding answering the questions! Draw the line mate.

"We weren't tagged hostile, we just ran to war instead"

We already know you don't respect hostiles anyways Legba.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

You're still avoiding answering the questions! Draw the line mate.

"We weren't tagged hostile, we just ran to war instead"

We already know you don't respect hostiles anyways Legba.

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I'm not going to lay out every possible scenario where an outside plunder is/is not ok. Everything is situational, and putting an absolute call on this ("outside plunder right before a war should never be allowed under any circumstane" as you seem to suggest) is superficial at best. I'm not interested in "what if's", I'd much rather focus on what actually happened and judge based on it.

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1. Emeriti and DD are not, and were not, in the past, in any mutually beneficial alliance with each other.
2. Emeriti never colluded with DD to conspire against DD's war target.
3. Emeriti never expected DD's plunder and took the hit by surprise.
4. Since DD was not tagged, every other kingdom in the server were free to hit DD without consequence.
5. Since DD was not tagged, DD was free to hit any kingdom in the server (except for the ones tagged) without consequence.
6. DD's war target was also not tagged during hostile, so there was no reason to stop any kingdom from hitting into our hostile
7. DD was aware of the possible consequence for plundering a crown kd immediately before the war. DD still went along with it. DD received a couple razes from Emeriti but was able to prevent further damage due to an excellent diplomatic skill.
8. DD never razed outside the war since the beg of war, and Emeriti proceeded to mind their own business.
9. Meanwhile, RoO continues to raze into DD's war. I think the last count was 71.

In this situation, DD did nothing morally or ethically wrong by plundering Emeriti, whether or not DD tried to "dodge" it, that is irrelevant.

So what are you trying to argue? DD are sons of *****es because....?

And DD's raze count on RoO is what?

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9. Meanwhile, RoO continues to raze into DD's war. I think the last count was 71.

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We followed up on our promise. We havent done anything wrong, if you dont want to respect other peoples hostiles (which is pretty standard approach in Utopia ) then why should people respect your war status? So I dont see why this has been a issue at all since you dont respect other peoples conflicts then you shouldnt have any issues with Sheister razing into your wars to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Papa Legba

I'm not going to lay out every possible scenario where an outside plunder is/is not ok. Everything is situational, and putting an absolute call on this ("outside plunder right before a war should never be allowed under any circumstane" as you seem to suggest) is superficial at best. I'm not interested in "what if's", I'd much rather focus on what actually happened and judge based on it.

Facts:
1. Emeriti and DD are not, and were not, in the past, in any mutually beneficial alliance with each other.
2. Emeriti never colluded with DD to conspire against DD's war target.
3. Emeriti never expected DD's plunder and took the hit by surprise.
4. Since DD was not tagged, every other kingdom in the server were free to hit DD without consequence.
5. Since DD was not tagged, DD was free to hit any kingdom in the server (except for the ones tagged) without consequence.
6. DD's war target was also not tagged during hostile, so there was no reason to stop any kingdom from hitting into our hostile
7. DD was aware of the possible consequence for plundering a crown kd immediately before the war. DD still went along with it. DD received a couple razes from Emeriti but was able to prevent further damage due to an excellent diplomatic skill.
8. DD never razed outside the war since the beg of war, and Emeriti proceeded to mind their own business.
9. Meanwhile, RoO continues to raze into DD's war. I think the last count was 71.

In this situation, DD did nothing morally or ethically wrong by plundering Emeriti, whether or not DD tried to "dodge" it, that is irrelevant.

So what are you trying to argue? DD are sons of *****es because....?

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Ifs do matter when it is "if the shoe was on the other foot" which is the case here.
How much money is okay to take from outside the conflict right before declare?
If RoO and you were on even footing and RoO plundered 200m gc then hit declare, would you complain?
You guys said you expected retribution from Emeriti, so you were okay with them hitting into your war. You hit into RoO's active hostile previously. So really tagging and relations means nothing to you, any hit is okay so long as it is retribution, so why complain about Sheister's hits or RoO's hits? It is retribution!

If you really think you did nothing morally or ethically wrong you should check your morals. Your move wasn't cunning it was sleazy.

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Originally Posted by Sheister

And DD's raze count on RoO is what?

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Our OOW raze count on you is zero Sheister.

lol.......

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Ifs do matter when it is "if the shoe was on the other foot" which is the case here.
How much money is okay to take from outside the conflict right before declare?
If RoO and you were on even footing and RoO plundered 200m gc then hit declare, would you complain?
You guys said you expected retribution from Emeriti, so you were okay with them hitting into your war. You hit into RoO's active hostile previously. So really tagging and relations means nothing to you, any hit is okay so long as it is retribution, so why complain about Sheister's hits or RoO's hits? It is retribution!

If you really think you did nothing morally or ethically wrong you should check your morals. Your move wasn't cunning it was sleazy.

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I just realised that you don't even SEE the ridiculous leaps of false logic you take every time you speak.

Yes we expected retribution from Emeriti, not because we plundered into or out of hostile, but because they are massively bigger than we are. It has sweet FA to do with anyone being tagged hostile.

And well done for taking a plunder of 6 millioin and attempting to turn it into a 200 million example. I see you also like to exaggerate.

Why didnt you correct your spelling error while you edited your post Abi? :)

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

I just realised that you don't even SEE the ridiculous leaps of false logic you take every time you speak.

Yes we expected retribution from Emeriti, not because we plundered into or out of hostile, but because they are massively bigger than we are. It has sweet FA to do with anyone being tagged hostile.

And well done for taking a plunder of 6 millioin and attempting to turn it into a 200 million example. I see you also like to exaggerate.

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I am unsure you understand logic at this point.

So size is the determining factor between right and wrong? Emeriti hitting you into your war is okay because they are bigger, interesting.

Finally we are getting somewhere, so 6 million is okay but 200 million is not. Where is the line? #DrawTheLine You guys are really good at NEVER answering the questions.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

I am unsure you understand logic at this point.

So size is the determining factor between right and wrong

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kinda is

sure nickey,

but they keep denying that too...

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

I am unsure you understand logic at this point.

So size is the determining factor between right and wrong? Emeriti hitting you into your war is okay because they are bigger, interesting.

Finally we are getting somewhere, so 6 million is okay but 200 million is not. Where is the line? #DrawTheLine You guys are really good at NEVER answering the questions.

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Where did I say that size determines right and wrong? Once again you pick logic up, walk to a cliff and make one huge leap.

And where did I say that 6 million is better than 200 million? I merely pointed out that you had chosen to exaggerate the figure immensely. I made no comment about whether it was better or worse.

And yes I understand logic, but you it appears do not.

My logic - All of the Aztecs are dead, therefore there are no living Aztecs
Your logic - All of the Aztecs are dead, therefore all dead people are Aztecs

Do you see the difference BOH?

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

I just realised that you don't even SEE the ridiculous leaps of false logic you take every time you speak.

Yes we expected retribution from Emeriti, not because we plundered into or out of hostile, but because they are massively bigger than we are. It has sweet FA to do with anyone being tagged hostile.

And well done for taking a plunder of 6 millioin and attempting to turn it into a 200 million example. I see you also like to exaggerate.

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Where did I say that size determines right and wrong? Once again you pick logic up, walk to a cliff and make one huge leap.

And where did I say that 6 million is better than 200 million? I merely pointed out that you had chosen to exaggerate the figure immensely. I made no comment about whether it was better or worse.

And yes I understand logic, but you it appears do not.

My logic - All of the Aztecs are dead, therefore there are no living Aztecs
Your logic - All of the Aztecs are dead, therefore all dead people are Aztecs

Do you see the difference BOH?

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So Emeriti is in the wrong for hitting you or not? Changing your story again? Did they make a chit move there? Or was it the expected move because they are bigger, and it is okay for them but not for Sheister and RoO?

"attempting to turn it into a 200 million example" You are inferring that my example is worse than what happened. What I want is for a line to be drawn as to what is ok. It is my belief that there can't be one besides 0. So an example of 1 million or 200 million makes no difference. Nor should 6 million and 100 billion. But if you can draw a line other than 0 why not 1 more gc on top of that continuously? I realize logic is difficult for you and you might not understand but it's okay just answer the question and I'll walk you through it.

I have done 0 P=>Q so Q=>P, thats some basic chit come on now lmfao. But I will go back to my example of your logic being you killed my dog claiming I said it was okay when in fact I had only said I didn't love my dog.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

We already know you don't respect hostiles anyways Legba.

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Maybe the info was lost somewhere in this thread, but I'd like to point out that RoO weren't tagged when we started hitting Sheister.

Name me one kingdom that would let a guy hit OOW over 100x without retributions.