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I find all the drama mildly entertaining if that helps
It's all in the starting letters of each kingdom. A and B. Add in an S and you have ABS. Coincidence? I don't think so.
let me put it to you this way. if you took away BB and ama what would you have now? no one in the top to keep CR under control. no one for anri to QQ about. no ,matter what side you sit on ama and bb still make the game fun. either they are friends or they are the enemy. they are still needed.
Speaking of Simians...
Yes, speaking of...my crops need Simian QQ, there's been a serious drought this age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
no... ama and bb they make the game more fun... fake rage and cr need to disband
Kingdoms afraid to war at a disadvantage ruin the game, not AMA and BB.
Polls clearly show AMA n BB arent liked, dishonorable Kingdoms that should disband, noone likes them. most hated is only thing they are
Yeah seems alot of people feel that way, unethical and powerplaying scumQuote:
Originally Posted by christianasas
who are these ghettos?
Pool show CR/RBL did many votes :P
A vote of YES is in favor of unicorns and rainbows and peace on earth.
A vote of NO means you are going to hell.
Do the right thing.
In general i support rainbows and peace on earth, but any animal that has a penis on it's forehead is too scary for me. What option does that leave?
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anonymous voting sucks! next time make it non-anonymous!
gotta be brave and courageous and tell the world what you feel!
this thread is entertaining
I don't understand all this QQ.
AMA/BB doing what we did last age -- there wasn't as much QQ last age and people were playing their advantages against said kingdoms. In the end it seems that people are upset that people are better. There seems to be a top tier of kingdoms and rather than trying to fight for 'honor' and fame. Each of those kingdoms will employ tactics to secure as many acres as possible. I've always been interested in the server-wide 'meta-relations' but that has seemed to matter less and less as the amount of top kds fall and people keep backstabbing each other. There is less fun to be the 'most honorable' kd, when it means that the less honorable top kd will gain an advantage over you and win over you (provided both have equal skills but one kingdom 'forced' more advantages).
Game mechanics will have a hard time to fix this. Also -- I think there are some players that enjoy this drama too much :)
ps.
I voted no ;)
if AMA and BB wernt around it'll be RBL (example only) and CR (example only) doing that same things no?
one will only get replaced by another (and repeat)
FYI i voted no ;)
no? big kingdoms gonna be big.
you are all a bunch of fools. this drama at the top is the only thing keeping this game spiced up. for me at least.
I voted yes, we definitely ruin the game and Snirpsner is right to point this out!
Now make a wild guess who our secret weapon is, who finishes the last letter of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Runefire
OH! MY! GOD!Quote:
Originally Posted by protector
AMA, BB, Settlers power alliance. I did not see that coming. I am outta here. Done for good. Hasta la vista, baby.
I can give hint to rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by protector
Most important crown deciding factor KD !
considering that the two you just mentioned are known cheaters it's quite likely that such a reality would be 10 times worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzy|
Pretty much thisQuote:
Originally Posted by munk
Kingdoms that refuse to just go to war at an advantage are even more ruinous don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Band of Horses
You probably think you are funny....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiester
Munk, for my part what find utterly insufferable about them is that they can't just give a straightup fight no matter how many advantages they have. when CR decided to go for legacy, well knowing its skill and experience advantages and also aware of legacy's size and NW advantages, they gave button. Here, where BB has NW, land, gold, skill, experience, cow, and every other advantage I can think of except for perhaps basic production economy on core, they can't just give button. No, they have to use a lame tactic that abuses the relations system.Quote:
Originally Posted by munk
Simply repugnant.
I have lot more respect for CR than I will ever have for BB. I don't feel kindly towards CR, so ........
No, when CR is in a position of clear advantage, they at least have the common decency to give button.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzy|
It was a good strategy they were using as they wanted to maxmize acres gained :) Why are you so mad Sheister?
Clearly sanctuary needs to come back
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Originally Posted by Korp
Actually Korp, they would have gotten more and war win bonuses if they had just given pew pew a straight fight.
I'd have to say I'm in the opposite camp, BB at least haven't been caught cheating but I can't say the same thing for CR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Because personally I think that a kingdom who is willing to sink so low as to break the actual rules and cheat in order to get ahead wouldn't be above doing absolutely everything else as well in order to get ahead.
BB at least has the common decency not to cheat, CR doesn't. So I'd fully expect them to act in a similar manner as BB in that situation assuming there wasn't anything worse they could do because then they'd go with that.
Just look at how the situation with AMA turned out last age, CR was unwilling to give up even an inch of their advantage, they even went so far as to say that if AMA wasn't available when notice ran out they'd ****play them(and they did so even before they could give the actual notice).
So I think you're horribly misguided in considering CR to be on higher moral/ethical ground than BB.
Yea, cause Pewpew never done any lame things :) Its only natural wanting the cows ripe for picking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Alleged(sp) hacking though..Quote:
BB at least has the common decency not to cheat
That is because you respect CR's intelligence more than I do. I actually do believe it is possible that they are that dumb/drunk that they did not believe they were actually breaking the rules of the game. I also value how kingdoms treat each other more than I value the guidelines of the game. Would you break the law to save someones life? To feed a starving child? There is a difference between what is legal and what is right. They are not always the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
I dunno, not at any time while I was involved with them they did not (unless you are counting the current intra-raze and BS acres to BB thing that is going on at present, debate that part if you wish.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Sheister, while I appreciate you talking highly of us, I do not agree with you on this. The whole point with top-warring is to position yourself in the hostile and with button play. That's the name of the game, and where the 'thrill' of utopia comes into play. Bouncing, while gut-feeling-wise kinda gay, is a valid strategy. I remember when we used it first time, I thought it was stupid and lame -- but it's just one of many strategies in play. Just like chaining. While I can agree that it might seem 'rough' to use it against a ghetto, who would not think of it -- pew2 is a veteraned kd, to which this came as no surprise.
The point here seems to be that BB should be expected to play worse on purpose is odd. Of course, if BB were complaining that pew2 were lame for intra'ing you'd be able to say that's their own doing -- "you gotta make a war worthwhile for both parties" but I don't see BB complaining. I think they 'understand' that pew2 felt without a chance, and then turned vindictive and took away the prize.
The lesson from this, imo, is to try and remember that this game is most exciting when warring, and that both sides should have some kind of incentive to war. Just like we took away the incentive for AMA to war last age, BB took it away from pew2 in this. I think we can all agree that utopia is less fun in this enviroment and we should try to agree on some 'playing' rules so that more kingdoms go for war, even when facing defeat.
Pyro last age was a good example of honorable 'surrender' pre-war by offering the equivalent to our potential war-gain. Pew2 could have been the 'bigger' person by offering land for cf, when acknologizing BB superior planning/execution/setup/whatever -- that would be a good precedent but that is a personal choice.
munk, pew was all set to war. BB would have gained more from a war than by what they did. All they had to do was war. simple. pew, in retrospect, should not have dealt squarely with a perceived obligation to BB. Pew should have warred RBL and let BB and AMA raze into the war or whatever crap they were going to pull because at least then pew and rbl would have had a war instead of having to deal with the PoS's that they have to deal with now.
What I have learned now is, never try to do the right thing by anyone in the top. Screw them and their concepts of fair. They are going to do whatever they are going to do anyway. There is no point trusting in any diplomacy or anything from them. They will break whatever agreements they make at the slightest hint of a possible justification and if you stick to your end in good faith, you will be played in bad faith.
shrug I don't know what 'arrangement' were made kept/broken. I'm just talking from the point of two kingdoms starting hostilities - I don't see the big deal here. It was like saying we were 'unfair' to pyro last age, by using homespump to get deeper drafted than them. It's all strategy and tactics.
ehem, and being more pumped than they were and being more prepared and being ready for war, did you give button or at least give relations?
I believe that you did, but do correct me if I am wrong.