Now that the final changes are out

[Kayani]

Fine.

How am I trolling? You know me so well from your whole 3 months of posting here? rofl

Posting random numbers doesn't prove anything, how did you come up with those figures?

DHaran - I don't need to know you well. But I've read dozens, if not hundreds of your posts. I said *I* would put Halfer above Elf. And I do. And then you said "no, not really", somehow inferring that you know more than I do about what I think.

How did I come up with those figures? It's called math. God, I don't even know why I'm responding to you ...

Of course it depends on what you want your province to do. And of course, obviously an Elf can have a better military than a Halfling if the Halfling doesn't train any troops or whatever. And of course there are other things to consider, such as hospitals and whatnot. But if you keep things equal, and just compare raw army strength/numbers, the Halfling wins.

Pick a draft rate and since you won't do the math, I'll show you. It's trivial.

All else being equal
25 people per acre. We're attackers, so ... I dunno - pick some number of wizards. 1.5 per acre raw. And we need peasants. How about 7.5 per acre? So, that leaves 25 - 1.5 - 7.5 for army/thieves. Or, 16 people per acre. Sounds good.

Let's give them 2 thieves per acre raw, 14 in military.

Ahh, but what combination you say?

Doesn't matter.

Elf:

0 Elite / 14 D Spec - 0 OPA, 84 DPA
1 Elite / 13 D Spec - 6 OPA, 81 DPA
2 Elite / 12 D Spec - 12 OPA, 78 DPA
3 Elite / 11 D Spec - 18 OPA, 75 DPA
4 Elite / 10 D Spec - 24 OPA, 72 DPA
5 Elite / 9 D Spec - 30 OPA, 69 DPA
6 Elite / 8 D Spec - 36 OPA, 66 DPA
7 Elite / 7 D Spec - 42 OPA, 63 DPA
8 Elite / 6 D Spec - 48 OPA, 60 DPA
9 Elite / 5 D Spec - 54 OPA, 57 DPA
10 Elite / 4 D Spec - 60 OPA, 54 DPA
11 Elite / 3 D Spec - 66 OPA, 51 DPA
12 Elite / 2 D Spec - 72 OPA, 48 DPA
13 Elite / 1 D Spec - 78 OPA, 45 DPA
14 Elite / 0 D Spec - 84 OPA, 42 DPA

Now, which is best? Pick your favorite.

Got it?

Ok, good. Compare it to a Halfling, all elite army, with 14 people per acre:

Halfling, 14 Elite / 0 Spec - 84 OPA, 70 DPA

Which Elf combo is better than 84 OPA, 70 DPA?

Now, consider that Halfing has 5% pop bonus, which is an extra 1.25 people per acre. You put them all into Elites, and Halfer is now at 91.5 OPA and 76.25 DPA.

What did I say?

Halfer can have better army than Elf and still run 3ish higher raw TPA.

And they can. Halfling with 5 TPA would have 12.25 Elites per acre, which is 73.5 OPA / 61.25 DPA which is still higher than most (all?) of the Elf combinations.

Now I know from experience that everyone's gonna come and say there are other things to consider. There are. I'm not debating that, and that's not what I said. I'm saying ONLY that raw army strength, Halfling has a higher number than an Elf, with all else being equal. However you wanna play your province and construct your army and build your acres and whatnot is up to you. And there is more involved that just looking at raw OPA / DPA.

But you wanted to see the mysterious math and there it is.

Now, make sure you pick my post apart like I know you're going to do. That always happens here. People aren't happy until everyone else is wrong for some reason. That's why I didn't wanna post math in the first place.