Can all of you noobs claiming that accepting + breaking a CF is not lame and considered fair, please PM me your coords every age so I can wave you noobs untill you offer a CF, then accept it to reset relations and wave you again. We'll see who starts complaining then, failers.
Firstly if all this gets resolved between us and my kingdom gets into a war with someone else and you hit into that war, i promise you there will be nothing less then death for your despicable kingdom.Originally Posted by Midoki
Secondly its cute that you think you are hitting the cap for land. tells me you have no idea what the cap is and you have no idea how much land youve alrdy lost.
fyi running to fort stance only makes the gains disparity worse.
Icy 4 8
Boko you will get the button once the meter fills up.
Boko he didn't mean he would hit you when you were warring someone else, he meant when he's not in war he hates to TM.
just a clarification just in case. i mean they break CF to reset relations. i wouldnt put it above them to raze into wars.
Icy 4 8
lol biased , you are the one who is on aggressive stance trying to defend something which your monarch had openly admitted( mistake or intentional nobody knows).
And the truth if someone were to condemn , it only takes 1 post to do it. Dont even try talking about fair play in future here .
i agree with it . SH just made the bad decision to war . but accepting cf /break cf to reset relations , just wrong even on a genuine mistake .If there's no intention to accept CF in the first place , why click accept or is it that some ppl just can't differentiate accept/reject.
Last edited by tufkuki; 14-12-2011 at 14:01.
what could SH do? maybe they didnt have friends that could help them or they were all in war atm. with myrmidons reseting relations just because SH didnt send a message first is asinine in the long run. also myr werent accepting CF according to the monarch correct? so what could SH do without outside help? just get farmed for a week?
Icy 4 8
Midoki why are you still discussing this? This is a mute point, Each side has explained themselves and to be honest theres not even a fude between SH and Myrm from what i can tell and what is isn't anything compared to what you are blowing this up to be. Everyone that is upset is either You, and the people your feeding to flame you. Stop making yourself and the kingdom you represent look worse. DDodge has made a apology and understands in the future there are different paths that should probably be looked at in regards to diplomicy. Why continue this discussion any further?
You must have NO idea about programming, all it takes is a simple if statement on the cancel cf option. If CF set up in past X hours then reject else accept. Wow so freaking hard...
Couldn't be bothered to copy everything but you admit that the mods have already seen it and they havn't given us a warning. It would appear that although it may not be liked within the community, there is nothing against it. Oh and as for your experiance.... yeah thankyou and goodbye, I know every action has consequences, I can take responsability for myself and I'm use to doing that. From real experiance in Utopia then people will take the time to get to know you still, not everyone reads this and lets other people make up there mind for them.
oooh I can shove my attitude, well well well... seems like I'm hitting a raw nerve ^.^
We aint had the mods or anyone advise us it is clear abuse of the system and considering all the *****ing and moaning going on... it aint like they are unaware about it, the only thing that has been said is the attitude of the community.
Dude calm down, did i say we was going to PK any of you? No. All I said is we lost our ecsess land and some of your orcs are fat little bloaters, if anything it was said in jest. ^.^
I don't know what the cap is on gains and that is why I asked. Assuming much?
As for the fort stance, I agree, I think we should war you but thats not my choice. It's my monarchs and as long as I'm in that kd i will support my monarch.
Thank you yes, apart from the very beginning when it was kd strat, I have not explored 1 acre otherwise. I'm an attacker and as such I like to make myself as 'powerful' as possable for wars, so I can grab grab grab grab and not lose as much in return. Think 10/10 hits and still comming out as the 2nd largest gainer kinda shows I'm someone who grows in wars.
Sounds like you made a stupid assumption and now trying to dig your way out, we like to war and war in this game is going into the said relation and fighting... we're a warring kd and not a pathetic out for revenge kd. We like good wars and to have fun through them, win lose or draw.
Farmed for a week? For land? lol ok, we would of got bored and moved on after a couple days, we would of outgrew them. What could SH do? They could war or they could ignore us for a day or two.
We've been hit by your kd for over a day, took our ecsess land but you've also done a load of learns which we never did. Your actually being worse to us than we were to SH, we knew that our land grabs would put them in a pos to war straight away if they didn't want to war us, we didn't aim to cripple any prov. But who cares, its all a game and having stuff like this going on is a lot better than sat around and nothig happening ^.^
I say what I like, if your upset then you are upset. Why mention me being upset? ^.^ Yes i'm frustrated at some of the ignorance but I aint upset. If others are upset... well they aint me. Maybe they should be the ones to move on if they don't like the discussion, as for the kd being hurt by me... really? Was I the one who accepted and cancelled the CF? If I was then wow... when did DDodge learn mind control =P
I may not be the most pleasant person to get along with, I am blunt in my honesty but I don't see how I can make our kd look any worse in the eyes of the community. Some don't think DDodge is sincere so any apology would fall on deaf ears.
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."
i was just making sure that if you hit into a war there would be dire consequences. i read it wrong but the message is still valid. just in case. like i said before, its better to eat a wave sometimes then to fight a losing battle.
if you dont think youre losing, continue hitting out of fort and see where this takes us.
/me shrugs
/me humps DDodge
Last edited by E_Boko; 14-12-2011 at 19:01. Reason: clarity
Icy 4 8
lol boko our only goal this age is to have fun and this hostility between us is very entertaining. We could careless about losing land (we wanted to land drop a bit anyway), honor, and science as long as things are interesting and this game isn't boring we are all for it. You guys can do whatever you want but at this point you are just being stubborn and hurting yourself, we are good to go all age baby.
we already ate your first wave, also hopefully some of our inactive provinces get back from their holiday breaks so things can become even more exciting
from the looks of things this is going down a path that is going to be a bucket of fun! ohhh i love the holiday season so much joy and happiness yay
Well in all honesty we are losing in regardes to land, my own stuberness of not wanting to land grab out of war has taken ~800 acres and I'd be a fool to think I was comming out 'better' from that, I will look towards the possatives, fantastic opNW and dpNW values and good thief/mage defence now, I'm perfectly ready for a war >
I wont bother paying attention to that warning, not cause I wont listen to you but cause I dont hit into wars... when 2 kds are warring then I'm of the opinion that they should be left to there own enjoyment, it's what I would like.
I also agree fully with you that sometimes it is worth eating a wave and moving on, if it had been just land that you guys took then we may of ignored it, I cant say for sure cause I'm not the monarch but my opinion would of been "Thanks for the land drop, now let us find a war". Grabbing sci and razing isn't going to help us 'forget', gave us more work to do after comming out of that war. Sometimes it is also worth risking everything just so others know that your not a pushover, make yourself such a pain in the backside that other kds wont want to get into 'petty' actions with you... I know I aint worded that properlly, ummm, if people know we aint going to be an easy target then unless they want to fight us, they'll generally leave us alone.
Kinda like the school playground, bullys pick on ppl cause they dont retal. Obviously not everyone hitting is a bully (I'm not calling your kd a bully either, please dont assume the worst all the time) but when the bullys realise that some kds hit back then they ignore the ones who hit back.
Back to the sci cap question, it'll be nice to think your a man and wouldn't be afraid of saying what the cap is... or do you not know and just bluffing about your own knowledge to make yourself look 'leet'? =P
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."
"Back to the sci cap question, it'll be nice to think your a man and wouldn't be afraid of saying what the cap is... or do you not know and just bluffing about your own knowledge to make yourself look 'leet'? =P "
There is no science cap.
If you intended to ask about the acre cap for attacking like you previously asked about:
Traditional March
Base gains are 12% and Traditional March gains are capped at 20% of your or your opponent's land, whichever is smaller. In war, this 20% cap is revised to 22% if your opponent's explore pool is not empty.
You can read it all in the guide:
http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph..._%26_Defending
Everything in your province is peasant based
I admit that my knowledge of computer programming is limited but I do have some. However, my knowledge of Utopia isn't so limited. So let me educate you a little more then I already have - No actions or warnings by the Mods does not mean they aren't looking at what you have done. It may not have violated any specific rule but even a first age player can see how it violates the 'spirit of the game' rule. Just because the devs have missed a part of their programming or over looked a way to abuse the system does not mean they wont fix it, it also doesn't mean they immediate action will be taken. It often takes the mods an devs days if not weeks to wade through the mountains of complaints, emails an postings before they can begin to work on a potential solution to a known bug or exploit. Again - if you need evidence of this then please ask your more seasoned players about the vacation mode abuse that took place an how it may not have been an actionable offense when it was first exploited but later it was addressed an was made an actionable offense. I am a betting man by nature an would lay down money that your kingdoms abuse of the relation system is being reviewed an at a later date in time it will be considered an actionable (deletable) offense if they don't just our right put in a min CF time.
it violates no rule
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