#2 province grande mucca deleted

[flogger]

Well that's the point, nobody can get deleted without good evidence/proof. The proof here was that Ryan sent an in game msg confirming a NAP with another player in a war. The terms offered/accepted was a clear indication of a fake war between two players imo.
Come on now, "All UBs in war are in danger of deletion without warning"? Do you honestly think it's this bad? :P

I fought a war once in which I could not hit the enemy's cow, and vice versa. All other 24 players hit on both sides within an hour of their armies being home, had players called in the middle of the night, and I didn't sleep for 48 hours. We lost 1/3rd of our land. I can see no way that this can be defined as a fake war. There was nothing fake about it.

A common fakewar involved both sides stocking resources and barely logging on since they were at no risk of being hit. We were losing resources and being hit constantly.

This may be something the devs don't like, which is fine, but it sure as heck ain't a "fakewar" by the definition the utopian community has used for ages. If its a deletable offense, it should be stated so seperately, as it doesn't fit under the criteria given for punishment, which was "we will action fakewars." It's fairly ridiculous to state you'll action a noun but use a different definition of the noun than a majority of the people's understanding of the definition of the noun as a reason for punishment.

Calling what Ryan did a "fakewar" makes Bishop's argument weak, IMO. If they simply called it "farming" people wouldn't be in disagreement. And I think a vast amount of people would agree that farming is bad.