Quote Originally Posted by John Snowstorm View Post
Palem: I don't know how you can miss the crux of the issue so many times while being so close to it. I also don't know why you are waffling stuff at me that is blatantly obvious to all and sundry, I have played and won in the top, I have also played t10 warring kds with FSU attitude.

AquaSeaFoams analogy is perfectly sound, and it seems even you understand why.



In your initial objection you said



you really think that HoH's opinion is the only one that matters in that example? you really think that that is the end of the story?
I was saying as if the three kds were operating independently. Not like HoH asked Sanc to gb Rage for them. As long as Sanc has a borderline reasonable excuse, they're pretty much off the hook.

But no. ASF's analogy doesn't work too well because the real good athletes don't just want to win. They want to beat the best, when the best are at their best. That might be a sentiment that's fading with today's sports where Pacquiao v Maywhether prolly won't happen or where NBA players would rather team up than prove that they're better than each other, but still. In this game, it doesn't matter so much how you win, but rather, that you do.

A good example might be if say the Bulls got the champ and then Rose got hurt and they were swept by say the Thunder. Obviously all the fans, and clearly the bulls would be disappointed, likewise if #1v#2 in Utopia would happen and #2 got gangbanged or something before the war, we the community would be upset, along with #2. Now, the thunder, while they're happy they won, would be left wanting more. The finals should be like the pinnacle of competition for the whole league, and it wasn't. Where as in utopia, there's such an emphasis on winning and not about competition, if #1 farmed out #2 because of a gb, I would expect something along the lines of this statement from them...

"#2 should rename themselves Farmville. Stop whining and sack up next time. We crowned. Get over it!"

Utopia has such an incredibly elitist community compared to other communities, such as popular sports. If you haven't crowned, then you're a worthless ghetto and your opinions are minimal (ask Simians). It doesn't matter how much you try, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, it doesn't matter how successful you've been in other areas. If you haven't won, then you're second-class. That's why kds go to such lengths as scummy play to win, because it's so incredibly important in this community. You think Inso wanted to crown last age because it's "so much fun dicing all age"? No, they wanted to be a part of the 'first-class' utopians and be taken seriously as a kd.

Compare that to other popular sports and it just doesn't compare. If you win, yes, you're certainly in the 'fraternity of the winners', but they gladly recognize the great teams/players who could never quite get over the hump or win. If you ask the critics who the best team in (American) football is, they don't say the Giants (the champions last age), it's the Packers.