Game Needs More Good kds Competing

[Realest]

the easiest path to a crown is to just join my kd. this is a known fact for the past 10 ages

[protector]

I know, and I didnt take it as catbashing :)

it's just funny cause most kds we beat last age were dwarf heavy. HoH was all dorf core and 2 other kds had mostly dwarfs.

Was it all dwarf cleric?
Dwarf core without cleric personality wouldn't be my favorite choice. It was the combo dwarf/cleric that was so strong... so many soldiers available to use on training troops or to counter overpop, it was nice!

[protector]

Yuck, I would hate to war with humans this age. Al that extra NW..............

/me shudders at what an orc KD with 25% military on all their core would do to a human core.....

that said, and Orc KD would not fare as well in the top because it can't whore up as effectively. So again, the inherent differences between warring opponants in your range, vs going for the top are very clear.

Prot,

Dwarf Cleric sucked in war. They were so easy to chain out it was laughable. They simply could not hold onto offense and recovery form a chain in war was something that they never seemed to do well. Now, perhaps BB has some elite strategy for holding onto their offense that BiO and the other KDs with dwarf cores don't know, but I am fairly convinced that cleric's are so overrated in a 4+ day war that its laughable. They are slightly better than warriors at hanging in there at best.

The problem with people who like dwarves is they plan them based on all the stuff that their BE and free buildings can do for them. They never plan with them as to what happens to them when they have no buildings.............

Being smaller/larger OOP makes no difference to who's going to win the age. Early on, when you just want to whore and not war, you'll want to have the CFs before to put all your cards on pure whoring. The last thing you'd want is to be caught off guard (like Sanc OOP last age) which would put a severe dent in your growth.

Dwarf/cleric last age was a beast.. it saved a lot of building space, it has a good economy and has a very fast army. Cleric's primary tool however, was the soldiers. We managed to prevent a lot of troop desertions with soldiers last age, had we not been cleric this would have been extremely hard to do on the same scale as we did. We actually had excess soldiers once our armies returned the first time iirc.

I suppose both us (BB) and Mercy played the setup as it should, perhaps the other dwarf/cleric core kingdoms didn't manage to play it the same way we did.

[Elit]

Polar Bears aren't a factor in the charts. Keep trying to cover your oopies.

Guess if we go next age 25 FA we can become factor and make real competition with you:P

ABS is not problem alone. Its true they use double standards all time and a lot background deals for cover his grow/competition but same time they cross line much less compare non abs kds. Its what push HoH to abs side. Now they have easy path to stay naped with abs and this secure them almost every age top 3. Its smart for them but cant prove if HoH is good or bad kd. More or less all old non abs kds gone. There is main new formed kds+ex WW kds. Land chart and WW chart is complete different so its take time to adapt.
In short if every one stop complain about how bad is other and concentrate to build his kd strong and can compete 1vs1 all will be ok.
Main problem is when non-abs kds try to compete and cf each other every one from them try to be "smarter" and use rest for his goals. Its why they fail.

[protector]

Speaking of relevant, how is telling me that I run a 25 faery kd relevant to me asking people to get better?

I'm telling you to start by improving your own kingdom and drop your silly 25 faeries ;p
You refuse to drop your 25 faeries because that was the reason you built TFC. Others might refuse to grow to bigger sizes because that wasn't the reason they built their kingdom. Get my point now?

I'm not contradicting anything.
A smoker telling another smoker to quit smoking is good advice.
A fat person telling another fat person to start exercising is good advice.

Regardless, I haven't once said that TFC is above my challenge. I have, on many occasions in this very thread commented on how we're not good and need to improve. What I WON'T do is run another race because then that's not TFC it's just another kd and I'm better off just building a NEW kd, which will happen eventually.

See my answer above.

Fair enough, but my point was that you CAN war to a crown. BiO did it, BeastBlood did it. Copping out behind "I want to war so going for a crown is stupid" is not an acceptable excuse.

No-one ever said you can't but I don't think you realize what it takes to achieve that. Absalom can't really do it (I think) because they will not war each other (understandable) and there just isn't enough competitive kingdoms to have 4-5 wars with in an age. A non-Abs kingdom could (as you have several other top competition to fight against) but judging from last age it's very time consuming and takes a lot of effort.

Also this massive multi-post is bad. Please don't do that again.

Its just easier to reply that way ;)

[protector]

One interesting fact to throw out guys, since new mechanics there have not been many CFS/NAPS of late.

Aside from allies, Rage has no cfs with anyone..just some food for thought

I think that was the entire point of this thread Proteus, that there is not enough competition. If you go back a few ages, you wanted to get CF's in place because you had several other top kingdoms that would put up a good fight.
The last few ages, at least 3 places in the top5 where Absalom.

With not knowing the capacity of Divinity, PewPew and the current Mercy, there are just 4 actual top kingdoms left who would be able to beat each other; Rage, Sanctuary, HoH and BB. It's fairly easy for you to then say "Rage has no cf's with anyone" :)

[protector]

the easiest path to a crown is to just join my kd. this is a known fact for the past 10 ages

This means you're making a comeback eh?

[stoffi]

Right. Because when my friends win wars I win too *rolls eyes*. Having your friends win is not winning. Also the kds that have beaten abs lately are most certainly not their friends.

I'll respond to you later persain, I'm on my phone right now :(

You have no idea because you weren't around when I played, you're relatively new. I noticed you here only in my final ages when I played in what was then called HaLL of Heroes. You have no clue, you didn't play back then, or you played in ghettoes.

This thread and the threads creator are irony at its greatest.

Indeed, DM. ^^

the easiest path to a crown is to just join my kd. this is a known fact for the past 10 ages

THIS is the biggest problem with utopia. Top kds the last few years have mainly been run by this kind of people, people with huuuuuuge egos who wouldn't know how to cooperate even if it bit them in the a**. They see only short term success for themselves and want to become big stars, not afraid to brag about their deeds constantly.


And no, winning by NAPing Absalom and half the server isn't winning.

Utopia today is a game for sissy girls. You have to give notice to attack someone? Lol?

[Lestat]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3she31/

[Elit]

THIS is the biggest problem with utopia. Top kds the last few years have mainly been run by this kind of people, people with huuuuuuge egos who wouldn't know how to cooperate even if it bit them in the a**. They see only short term success for themselves and want to become big stars, not afraid to brag about their deeds constantly.

And no, winning by NAPing Absalom and half the server isn't winning.
Utopia today is a game for sissy girls. You have to give notice to attack someone? Lol?

Realest just troll for free. He is retired long ago and not lead any top kd atm.

about "sissy girls." part is not true too. If you compete in WW/Honor chart most like you wont have any CF or very few. If you compete in land chart there is 4-5 kds total. You can war them yr 4-5 or war them yr 9-10. But you wont war them yr5 8 and 10 how none from WW/honor kds war same kd 2-3 wars per age. Its why land based kds make CF+notice deals.

[Bishop]

THIS is the biggest problem with utopia. Top kds the last few years have mainly been run by this kind of people, people with huuuuuuge egos who wouldn't know how to cooperate even if it bit them in the a**. They see only short term success for themselves and want to become big stars, not afraid to brag about their deeds constantly.


And no, winning by NAPing Absalom and half the server isn't winning.

Utopia today is a game for sissy girls. You have to give notice to attack someone? Lol?

Back to back crowns says a lot.

[amokchen]

25 Faeries would be a fine setup, if their ops raised meter so they cant avoid warring like you guys do palem.

Note to bishop :/

[Bishop]

Noted: ignore suggestions in this thread.

[GotCha]

I thought the purpose of this topic was to inspire other kd's to reach for the top? Not to focus 26 pages on talking about the already top kd's that nap whore?

Pretty sure my kd was in #1 honor and ww's for 75% of the last age untill we had 5 deletions from the "humble" utopia lords, with no reasons as to why. Funny thing is we are more low key this age and have the exact same people, and nothing has happened. Be careful unknown kd's for if you do too well you might have provs go up in flames.

[Bishop]

I can guarantee you there were reasons why. Don't be ridiculous.