Game Needs More Good kds Competing

[Palem]

People gave up long ago because Absalom were invinsible.

Lol. And lol.
The alliance that doesn't win the majority of the time is invincible?

You're a perfect example of the problem stoffi. You tried to challenge Abs and you lost. So instead of challenging yourself to get better, you just quit because that's easier.

What excuses? How is that even relevant to me telling you to start with your own kingdom?
TFC is getting better every age because it's pretty hard to make it get worse...

Speaking of relevant, how is telling me that I run a 25 faery kd relevant to me asking people to get better?
You're attacking the messenger, not the message.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...d-hominem.html

You're contradicting yourself.. you keep telling others to accept your challenge and improve, while at the same time you decline that same challenge and hide behind a "TFC is meant for fun" excuse, gg.

I'm not contradicting anything.
A smoker telling another smoker to quit smoking is good advice.
A fat person telling another fat person to start exercising is good advice.

Regardless, I haven't once said that TFC is above my challenge. I have, on many occasions in this very thread commented on how we're not good and need to improve. What I WON'T do is run another race because then that's not TFC it's just another kd and I'm better off just building a NEW kd, which will happen eventually.

TFC is sitting on a solid record of 0 wars so far. Having fun are you? ;)

Yes. We have loads of fun.

You need to win by a large surplus to make it worthwhile. If ya don't, you'll be wrecked from a war with barely preparation for another fight against a kingdom who had plenty of time to prepare.
Even with the big acre gain vs Rage, we had money issues for our fight against Mercy EOA. Mercy had more than twice the amount of gold we had for dragons/wages etc. And we where lucky Rage didn't chain any of our provinces deeply.

If you add the fortified time, the war and the eow cf all together, you need to win quite a bit to make warring worthwhile. Most of the times it isn't more profitable then whoring (as whoring allows you to be in a pumpbuild for wpa/sci etc)

Fair enough, but my point was that you CAN war to a crown. BiO did it, BeastBlood did it. Copping out behind "I want to war so going for a crown is stupid" is not an acceptable excuse.

Also this massive multi-post is bad. Please don't do that again.

I'll put this question out there then, Palem if u wanted more kds to "compete" why not use TFC to do that. Even if u cant war u could very much slow the growth of a "top" kd and give free acres to kds that u judge as valid competition. You could have war'ed pulse eariler in the age to give them an acre boost. How about being suicidal and hit into my kd right now, your in nw range for war, give us 15 points and then dont withdraw untill a forced WW happens. Would instantly launch us up to compete with HoH & either a win there or beating u badly enough lets us war sanc depending on how many acres we can get on fearies+killers. Point is thats a "political" issue that would instantly cause chaos, and thats what most kds are willing to mess around with. Not doing that doesnt mean your "worse" it just means u dont wanna do it.

I'll tackle this in two parts.
1. My kd is not a tool for someone else's success. I'm not going to sabotage my kd so another kd could do better. That's cheap, dirty, and generally lame game play. I hope this was more of a hypothetical than a serious suggestion because I expect a little more out of you than that Persain. Simians did that and everyone judged them appropriately.
2. The goal of this isn't to "topple" any particular kd or alliance. I said in the OP that Abs is not the problem. It's the quality of the kds around that's the problem. How would letting Divinity farm out TFC to get a massive boost in acres do anything towards making Divinity a better kd? You don't learn any better strategy. You don't learn how to whore any better. You don't really learn anything other than that you can catch up to abs with the help of another party who's willing to dump a ton of acres on you. I want people to be able to compete on their own, the right way.