Mask 6th war win

[haringmanok]

Kinda confused of what is going on. Anyway, Mask did gracefully hand the war win to Helix.
If they are really keen in using underhand resort to get war win to top the chart, they could have well chose to war till eoa where there is still a slightest chance to getting the crown or perhaps in the hope helix will give in. So from the above reason stated,Mask action justify their legitimate wins. Or is there any one with evidence to overthrow this fact? One will always remain innocent unless we can find evidence to charge him guilty, right?

Mask is sourgraping that they couldnt win so they sent a dragon prior to WD. So i dont think it was a graceful WW for helix.

Mask wouldnt stay 15th spot on land if they didnt Withdraw, mages of Helix were already increasing off specs then they withdrew. Nothing would be left, back to ghetto, if they didn't Withdraw.

[Feint]

I find it annoying that people discount the effort, activity, and coordination it takes to even contend for the war crown. It's been said on these forums that there aren't enough kingdoms competing, but those same people dismiss the difficulty of getting a war crown despite the fact that it's the most competitive aspect of Utopia.

To those people- If it's that easy, why don't YOU get control of an average KD, master your setup and strategy, and lead them to get a 7/7 (or better) war record. Sometimes, if you're lucky, you might get an easy war or get a lucky break when a larger KD decides to WD. But chances are you're not gonna get "lucky" 7 times. Especially when you start getting 4/4 and up. With more land and honor each war win, the pool of KDs that would even be willing to war you only gets tougher and tougher.

People use the fact that one particular war seems lucky (emphasis on "seems") to justify their preconceived notion that the war crown is meaningless. They don't consider that to even get to the point where one war win might give you the crown is a feat in and of itself.

But yeah, Masks must have cheated, why else would they have a good war record?

Well said, especially the portion speaking up for warring kingdom. The warring chart is dis credit too much. It is not a lower class of chart compare to land and nw, and is definitely not easy to achieve as well. Another aim for me to bring up Mask issue is to remind the rest not to do such thing which will taint the warring chart even more, making it redundant.

[Feint]

From Helix comment on the tough fight to get a victory over Mask despite numerical advantage had actually show Mask had indeed some capability to play well too. Don't take shortcut anymore. With your activity and strategy, you will be a force to be taken seriously as well. Maybe the loop hole in the warring chart in my opinion is the war between 20 vs 20 and 25 vs 25. 20-23 province kingdom and 24-25 provinces kingdom is not of equal number. 25 vs 25 need more in depth tactic and strategy and effort as well. Maybe we could have a factor included in calculation of war win to negate this thing.

[Lykron]

Well said, especially the portion speaking up for warring kingdom. The warring chart is dis credit too much. It is not a lower class of chart compare to land and nw, and is definitely not easy to achieve as well. Another aim for me to bring up Mask issue is to remind the rest not to do such thing which will taint the warring chart even more, making it redundant.

the point ppl make is that indeed ww chart is inferior to land/nw chart since one can easily arrange wars to win it. as long as you are willing to give up land/honor you will always find someone willing to give you a war win. as long as there isn't a system to make top kds in the ww chart fight each other (lke utopia tournaments were in the past) and they continue to farm ww's this chart will be a joke.

[Avalanche]

You guys realise Masks didn't win the crown right? BoB just overtook them with their 7th war win.

@BudLightYear, great post. Even if not as prestigious, the WW crown is still a fair achievement. I think everyone knows the war win crown does not represent the BEST warring kingdom. But it does represent the kingdom that could best find and win the most wars that particular age. Even if there are a few complete ghetto stomps in there, the top few kingdoms in the war win charts are usually legit warring kds with good leaders, an active core, and know how to war pretty well.

@Jazze, if you would like people to take the content of what you say seriously, maybe you should write it in a way that is pleasant on the eyes and easy to comprehend and not written like my 16 year old sister's facebook status updates. A huge portion of the utopian community are people with English as a 2nd and 3rd language have better communication skills than you.

[vodislavia]

Mask is sourgraping that they couldnt win so they sent a dragon prior to WD. So i dont think it was a graceful WW for helix.

Mask wouldnt stay 15th spot on land if they didnt Withdraw, mages of Helix were already increasing off specs then they withdrew. Nothing would be left, back to ghetto, if they didn't Withdraw.

The Dragon was started 24 hours before they withdraw and they finish it 30 hours after they withdraw.
That's why they are pathetic.

[MrCurious]

lol shoot yurself verminator.. yur a hater ... its obvious no one expected us to beat them .. and regardless of their previous wars legitmancy ... our war v them was and we won so shut up loser

Jazze, your life must suck hard since you feel the need to be such a d*** online. Get over yourself

[Feint]

Jazze is from Mask?

[Bishop]

Watch the language guys.

[LuckySports]

I wonder how long this thread will continue to go along..

If they cheated report them.. If not, stop whining. It IS as simple as that.

[Feint]

Ok. End this thread. No more post from me.

[JAZZE]

avalanche. amk. and mr curious get off my nuts plz

[JAZZE]

and no im not in mask

[meta]

The fact that you think I have a poor reputation does not necessarily mean that everyone else thinks I have a poor reputation. Many people know I am an honest, outspoken player, as well as someone who provides evidence for my claims. I get so much attention because of my exceptional abilities, meanwhile, you are incompetent. Please don't be angry at me because I left your newbie kingdom. Your previous comment suggests that you miss me and would like to get my attention. If you would like to avoid my angry rebuttal, please don't involve me in your discussion.


Woo, I'm fluent in stupid.

Thx! It was late. I had no idea what i was reading :-)

[JAZZE]

thats cuz yur a tard