Quote Originally Posted by Cello View Post

Similarly, had we been in the position Havoc was in now, and we were asked to keep the notice period intact while they go war another kingdom (not an increase in notice, like topsy makes everyone believe up there), after which we would still easily be in a position to farm them out, we would have given them that courtesy. A courtesy that Zauper was willing to extend to us, but that the rest of his shady council can't seem to bring up.

Being one of the dominating kingdoms in the game comes with a responsibility. A responsibility to keep things fair and even in the top, and sometimes this requires you to turn a kingdoms 0% chances into 10% by letting them war another kingdom and reaping the benefits afterwards. Havoc have clearly shown that they value quick success over morality. We'll see where it brings them.


Please tell me what is fair?
1) you asked us to go find another kd to war. Which kd are you suggesting that the war is fair? If the 1st kd asking the 2nd kd to war is not fair, and the 3rd kd will war the 2nd kd, which other kd is potentially fair?

2) Up until 1 week ago before AMA get razed, pryo is about 15-20k smaller than AMA. And AMA is about 20k smaller than CR. If AMA warring pryo is considered fair, why is CR warring AMA is not considered fair?

3) AMA last war is with Rage, thats about 2 weeks ago? 2 weeks of preparation is not enough to war any kd?

As far as i know, you have talked to various poeple from CR. The deal proposal you guys giving is still the same.