CR vs AMA

[Puff]

Lol. All of crunch's posts are so incredibly one-sided bias. Stop speaking as if ama is acting on some justice crusade and helping all utopians right some misdeed. For propaganda to actually work, it would have to be believable. Using terms such as "honorable Utopians", "ethical fair play" and "despicable acts toward Utopians " just make you sound silly.

[Maximouse]

lol. A lot of bs has always been posted here, but us making a forumthread that gives you an extra week notice is now considered dealbreaking?
LMFAO Is that a new record in the amount of spin you can give a story?

Does that only work if somebody posts it? Or would that also count if I know somebody intends to notice me before they actualy do?
And if I have logs of people saying they INTEND to notice me? Would that count as an early notice?

Keep spinning it any way you like forumtrolls and haters. Fact is we didnt break our agreement. We didnt give AMA notice yet and we certainly had no plans to go at them before april1st yr9 which is the time our 72h notice to be given on jan 1st yr9 would end.

Ama as several people allready pointed out didnt see a way to crown without deal breaking, so they did. After you remove all the bs that is what is left. Ama deal breaks cause they want to crown.

I still like to hear from proteus and cello ofcourse on how their statements and promisses to all the other KD's to intra raze the acres they take and the promise to take themselves OUT of the crown race completely now work when we have Elit admitting (atleast your honest about that part) that Ama intends to keep the acres and try to crown.

[Maximouse]

And to all the trolls and haters that call us stupid for not beeing prepared. All we did wrong there is having faith in Elit/proteus/cello word. Apperently, that is stupid and that is what we did wrong. Ama was still fighting those 3 provs that were razing them so a big NW jump was reasoned away as beeing caused by those provs.
We didnt expect Elit/Proteus/Cello to break their word.

Clearly they did, so all we are to blame for is having faith in 3 people that we shouldnt have trusted. That was our fault

[Maximouse]

ama to war pyro 1 on 1 was set up before CR began to impose their will on ama and threaten with 2 on 1

So, because you planned to war somebody else we cant give notice? The deal was that we had a CF till yr9 with a 72h notice period (with a reset clause if you where hostile with anybody else at that time according to zauper and some people from ama).
You had the exact same deal with Pyro. (not sure about a reset clause)

So while following that deal we could give you notice on Jan 1st, and would be able to hit at april 1st. And since you wouldnt be in any hostile before then resetclause didnt aply.

So are you really gonna claim now that because you plan to war somebody others cant notice you?

Just stick to what Elit allready said. Admit you deal broke cause you want to crown. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Proteus]

And to all the trolls and haters that call us stupid for not beeing prepared. All we did wrong there is having faith in Elit/proteus/cello word. Apperently, that is stupid and that is what we did wrong. Ama was still fighting those 3 provs that were razing them so a big NW jump was reasoned away as beeing caused by those provs.
We didnt expect Elit/Proteus/Cello to break their word.

Clearly they did, so all we are to blame for is having faith in 3 people that we shouldnt have trusted. That was our fault

AMA did not expect to be doubled by Havoc and Sanc either and trusted the leaders of those kingdoms but you did it anyways. Same time again this age you were trusted to play fair but then you claimed dibs and effectively gave notice in advance and threatened 2v1 if we hit any other kingdom.

(04:46:15) 02(@Gacib) and here is diplo dorje to the rescue
(04:46:19) 02(@phonegoodz) Probably used most their stealth on sanc
(04:46:19) 02(@Gacib) either way - gb not needed
(04:46:21) 02(~dorje) i'm not doing any diplo
(04:46:26) 02(~dorje) if you want some diplo, go do it
(04:46:34) 02(~dorje) but don't say "we ****ed up" when we did not, in fact, **** up
(04:46:39) 02(@phonegoodz) But it will likely hurt a ton next wave
(04:46:51) 02(~dorje) mom ****ed up, again, and would deserve to be 2v1'd for it
(04:46:57) 02(@Nick_mi) ^
(04:47:06) 02(@Megas) exactly
(04:47:06) 02(%brado|phone) So 2v1 them
(04:47:17) 02(~dorje) sounds good

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More to come, I will post more 2v1 logs for every bull**** post you make, keep them coming.

[Lurking Ghost]

Just stick to what Elit allready said. Admit you deal broke cause you want to crown. Nothing more, nothing less.

AMA is always the victim, and it's the whole world against AMA. It is the way it always has been, and it allways will be.

Remember, AMA is the kingdom that represents fairness, and honor. Everyone else is scumbags that ****play AMA, or any other kingdoms.
When will utopia learn ?

[t8x]

Domination leads to war!

[Korp]

I thinks its fascinating that Proteus thinks this quite horrible and vile tactics by Havoc and whoever. While I would count what Rage did towards Dreams be one of the more despicable acts in Utopia history. Threatning with gangbangs a kingdom just cause ASF wanted to do make certain people quit.

[Cello]

January 1st, Yr9, Havoc we are sending you notice!

[Elldallan]

January 1st, Yr9, Havoc we are sending you notice!

Notice of what exactly?

[Tazzie]

ama to war pyro 1 on 1 was set up before CR began to impose their will on ama and threaten with 2 on 1

by Utopian community it seems you really mean your kd fake rage and the despicable crue you have put together you want to call an alliance.. the real Utopian community is some 200 plus ghettos that despise your **** play and can see your true colors..

your garbage kd along with simians and others have been chattering all age how you were going to destroy ama...

ama took down you and pew in war i believe you both were larger.. your kd has shown time and time again complete disrespect to others and it is your kd that always tries to push your weight around... and it is your kd fake rage who always wants to dictate fair play when you and your kd have no concept of what that means..

oh and you only honored the deal because you were too weak to do anything else. you could have grown and you could have war but you didn't because we all know what that outcome would have been..

Crunch you sound quite bitter.
Its not only about how you won your wars...its also about honouring the deals that you have made...i am sure if this was pulled the otherway around to AMA
You guys would have complained aswel.

The problem is on how the ceasefires are done by AMA...you guys want to go for Pyro 1st you say...CR wanted to fight AMA 1st because it would benefit them more.
Why did AMA put CR and Pyro on the same CF end dates?...surely could conflict especially if they are still in the race to compete for land crown no?

[Tazzie]

I thinks its fascinating that Proteus thinks this quite horrible and vile tactics by Havoc and whoever. While I would count what Rage did towards Dreams be one of the more despicable acts in Utopia history. Threatning with gangbangs a kingdom just cause ASF wanted to do make certain people quit.

Even the great ASF cannot make people quit Korp...he can only try....and he tried because certain people that where in dreams where responsible causing the awar and abandoned their allies...by deleting there provs...thats right starting something and not finishing it.

And why do i know that....i was pulled in Sonata when that awar was going on....only to hear 48h later to delete my account because the rest was going to delete aswel.

[Tazzie]

AMA is always the victim, and it's the whole world against AMA. It is the way it always has been, and it allways will be.

Remember, AMA is the kingdom that represents fairness, and honor. Everyone else is scumbags that ****play AMA, or any other kingdoms.
When will utopia learn ?

When did you start playing...like 10 ages ago?

Fairness and honor was more to be found in the earlie days of utopia....and believe me AMA doesnt match up to those standards...they only want to dictate on their own way.
Whats good for AMA is good for AMA!!!

[nickey]

So we should all invade Germany?

[Maximouse]

Proteus, how about you wake up allready. From the names in that log its only megas and nick still playing. And neither of them are leadership. I wasnt there then either.
I was in Sanc the age they crowned and then half an age after that mainly doing diplo for ABS.
So are you really gonna keep claiming you did this because of something that was done to you 4 ages ago?
Just man up to what you did. Elit did it. Why cant you? And when your doing that, also explain how your promise to take ama out of the crownrace completely holds up with Elit stating Ama wont raze themselves at all.

If you go back far enough you will be able to find a crap move from any KD. So howmany ages would we need to go back? And would it be a crap move if you think it is, or if a majority of the people in this forum think it is? And would all crap moves be considered good enough reason to deal break?

Spin it any way you like. Everybody here knows its just that. You trying to hide the pretty simple truth and you not willing to own up to what your doing.