FS vs ED: FS brings in out of hostile help?

[Gorash]

FS are establishing themselves continuously as one of the ****tiest and scummiest kds now. The coincidences keep coming dont they? Policing Emeriti for it, you deserve the same level of policing of getting gbed by multiple kds. You've officially **** on the name you've built so hard upon in the past and now it's worth slightly less than a used toilet paper.

FS crying to allies like the sissies they are lulz.

Yeah, and ED are cute little ponies! Go tell everyone, quick!

[nickey]

Such a scummy play by so called "fair play alliance"...

[protector]

I wonder where protector is now? surely he must right this wrong and punish fpyro?

last age BB actioned my kd for hitting into a fat, underpumped FS (who were apparently in a 3 week hostile). He stated things like "don't interfere with hostiles, and I wont need to interfere with you"

Now pyro full waves into ED, who are clearly hostile with FS (only a 3 day long hostile from what I've read). Protector, police of utopia, please action this ASAP, or can you only bully kd's who are 1/10th of your size?

Tic Toc BB, i'm waiting for you to punish fpyro!

Lol, still sore?

2.5 days of extra prep time in exchange for guaranteed war seemed like a reasonable offer to me since you guys had a fairly reasonable land advantage.

Several (4? 5?) waves for CF is a lot, but also not entirely unreasonable considering the circumstances of last age. Often in top conflicts, if you CF before draft, you're giving up close to 2 waves. If you CF post draft, it winds up being closer to 3-4 waves.

I think both where around the same land size? (it also included a no growth clause for FS - I know because I mediated in the matter :p)
Its questionable (imo) if giving a button (8 hits) with their # of pure hitters (8 undeads) to a human kingdom is with 2 hours before daychange is that much of an advantage

I don't know how much is true of what both say about last age, but assuming both sides have spoken some truths I think the asking for 4 waves is over the top. Next age roles are reversed and then one party wants 5 because the other wanted 4 the previous age. Should just make 1-2 waves for a CF as the standard.

yes bb razed/bounce waved our large provs and threatened to continue into our war if we did not cf fs. Protector told me he did not tolerate that kind of sh!t play. But where is protector now? Hiding behind hypocrisy?

We only bounced. And we bounced one prov iirc. I only threatened to continue bouncing if you didn't back off, you were not in war when we started.
You just ran to a fakewar when we started. Coincidentally, it was another kingdom who was hitting FS into hostile.
Posts like this made me wish I had just continued instead of giving you a great deal for your foul play.

show is over folks. nothing to see.

Gud gud

Such a scummy play by so called "fair play alliance"...

So whom are you referring to? Fair play or FEYR play? They're 2 different ones!

[MyNameIsMatija]

They were 62k odd acres and we were 61k odd acres coming oow, not that it matters now, CF has been reached and ED got a pretty good deal out of it imo. They should be satisfied for now with the 7k honor they droped on FS.

[Parth]

I think both where around the same land size? (it also included a no growth clause for FS - I know because I mediated in the matter :p)
Its questionable (imo) if giving a button (8 hits) with their # of pure hitters (8 undeads) to a human kingdom is with 2 hours before daychange is that much of an advantage

Then you also know growth clause was for both kds.

I don't know how much is true of what both say about last age, but assuming both sides have spoken some truths I think the asking for 4 waves is over the top. Next age roles are reversed and then one party wants 5 because the other wanted 4 the previous age. Should just make 1-2 waves for a CF as the standard.

3 waves, 2 for honor and 1 learn (or 4k hp + 1 learn round), is way less then what FS offered us last age. So if things escalate in the same direction it wont be one wave more next age but one less. We wanted payback but unllike some others around here, we're not completely unreasonable. I think you know this.

[darkl1ght]

Protector your rebuttal to your own double standards is "lol still sore?" Tell me why are you not actioning this double hostile??

[nickey]

So whom are you referring to? Fair play or FEYR play? They're 2 different ones!

BB alliance which warred emeriti alliance, you cried foul there, imo rightfully and thats only my opinion.
We had perfect 1 vs 1 hostile here, started on even grounds and we turned it to our favour, our play was good and didn't provoke any outside interference or policing, yet as soon as FS lost the battle on the forum they called in they alliance buddies to come in and force us into submission, backing that action on grounds that they are not in hostile, while they were obviously 127 points on the meter!!

And this play is abs classic, blatant lies and make grounds to gangbang, forcing deals and so on... GJ Beastblood of Absalom...

[texn]

Yawn, we should do more diplo out in the sun drinking beer instead. Jon, maybe you and me should diplo with the swe ppz. ;)

[protector]

Then you also know growth clause was for both kds.

Err, it was just a response to zauper saying FS had a land advantage (I'm aware you said both :p)

Protector your rebuttal to your own double standards is "lol still sore?" Tell me why are you not actioning this double hostile??

What needs to be actioned? I believe this has already been solved with some diplomacy. Something you refused.

[AquaSeaFoam]

And this play is abs classic, blatant lies and make grounds to gangbang, forcing deals and so on... GJ Beastblood of Absalom...

No nickey, the things BB's alliance has done this age are worse than what Absalom has done in their entire history. Absalom has never deal broke and gb'd a kingdom in real war that had apologized and offered whatever compensation was needed to fully fix the situation. Never.

FS are cowards who call in allies every time they are at a disadvantage and then need to help their allies gb others to repay their favors. I can give examples of some 3week long beatdowns my kingdom has taken at the hands of a stronger positioned opponent while Absalom was dominant and never was there threat of allies being called in despite me offering cf the whole time. The hostile ended when the aggressor finally decided to cf when we were fully beat down.

This is Feyr Play, not Absalom.

[texn]

FS are cowards who call in allies every time they are at a disadvantage and then need to help their allies gb others to repay their favors. I can give examples of some 3week long beatdowns my kingdom has taken at the hands of a stronger positioned opponent while Absalom was dominant and never was there threat of allies being called in despite me offering cf the whole time. The hostile ended when the aggressor finally decided to cf when we were fully beat down.

This is Feyr Play, not Absalom.

Lol, can you please tell me all the times we have called in allies? So full of BS crawl back into your cave.

[Korp]

Funny enough I can recall few times when waving an Absalm kd has ended with my kd just "randomly" getting waved by another Absalom kingdom.

And the best example of all. Ama fighting sanctuary "no hostile" was claimed by dorje and magically Mercy waved Ama.. Another Goldie in that situation is the farming of gold between Mercy and sanctuary..

[protector]

No nickey, the things BB's alliance has done this age are worse than what Absalom has done in their entire history. Absalom has never deal broke and gb'd a kingdom in real war that had apologized and offered whatever compensation was needed to fully fix the situation. Never.

FS are cowards who call in allies every time they are at a disadvantage and then need to help their allies gb others to repay their favors. I can give examples of some 3week long beatdowns my kingdom has taken at the hands of a stronger positioned opponent while Absalom was dominant and never was there threat of allies being called in despite me offering cf the whole time. The hostile ended when the aggressor finally decided to cf when we were fully beat down.

This is Feyr Play, not Absalom.

I lol'd

[flogger]

If only everyone had the integrity of absalom to stop hiding behind fake forum nicks and apologize for real once their council logs get leaked it would be a better place!

[Lamme]

Wow, this topic. Props to ED though, I can't really complain on how you took us pants down. Greeeeetz from FS.

this is for you btw AquaSeaFoam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDPkD1RaMq8