lol?Originally Posted by Judge
lol?
Since you are online, mind giving a few answers?
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You should work on your selective reading and read the whole post. I thought it was pretty clear what I thought about Pyro and Nesta, but I guess reading isnt your strong suit.
answers to what?
oops, off to work. No time for the 37th straight day of Judge QQ. Mebbe tommorr
Sorry Nesta but right now you're coming over as either naive at best or fairly clueless at worst.
You've said that you didn't know the situation and had to ask about it while in a hurry, but by that point you'd already managed to either have decided off your own back that ED was "powerplaying" FS or you'd been asked by a 3rd party (FS/BB/??) to help and based on what you knew of the situation (sounds very little) then decided that request was valid.
The problem with your comments are that you keep saying how only this age matters. I don't think that anyone impartial 3rd party would disconnect a KD being bashed for 2 weeks and then just say it has to be discounted and not taken into consideration. What staggers me is that you're now saying that if it wasn't right after AWAR then even you might think this was a double hostile, I mean pass me the shovel you've done more than enough digging for today...
For me it seems that there has been some buildup discussion where FS/someone has either directly or indirectly cried about FS's situation and you've came along on your rainbow unicorn without bothering to check all the stories and decided you need to help them, whether that was foolish on your behalf or not changes nothing.
When you've tried to find out the facts at a late stage then someone in BB has filled you in with some lies (Parth not accepting any terms, when he wasn't given any just that he offered a blank CF only with no counters until 750 honour/day) and it all being Parths fault. Quite what level "suggested anyone do anything" means it's unclear, but in the context of the chat we have to work with it seems to be taken that someone in BB motioned that people in the alliance chat should do "something" to stop ED/help FS.
Based off the back of this you decided to go and help FS, this has long stopped being a convo for "what is a valid hostile", this was so blatent that the idea that Pyro just waved ED because they were fat and a good target who Pyro wanted to war (thus could use the x hours of no hits excuse) has never even been brought up by any parties involved on alliance side.
To me it sounds like you're trying to implicate Pyro as being at fault and you made that call to go after ED. However your lack of knowledge around the situation and needing to ask questions about what was going on, combined with the way the convos are worded makes it very much seem like this wasn't just Pyro noticing something happened and making a move to stop it. Rather now it looks like you're trying to take blame and cover tracks (maybe that's not true but that's how I personally read it and I have no vested interest in trying to make any parties look worse than others).
Last edited by silverfox; 09-07-2015 at 16:05.
I am clueless as to the distinction being drawn. lol.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
Double hostiling a KD to help someone out without knowing the full facts behind the situation?
Could be considered as naive in Nesta trying to "do the right thing" or just outright idiotic, going into what even he describes he might see as a double hostile without actually getting his facts in order?
Who cares about previous situations they helped us when we got gang banged 5v2. They were in trouble and we will help them. What is so hard to understand for you people? Emeriti changed the game with their alliance forever, everything before the AWAR is completely irrelevant and when allies are being bullied, Lannisters pay their debts!
I dare anyone to try and mess with anyone who helped destroy the Emeriti alliance and see what happens this age, there is very little tolerance for the rest of this age at least, hopefully it continues into next age which I expect it undoubtedly will as AWAR Part 2 is coming, its so obvious whats cooking.
Last edited by bombdigie; 09-07-2015 at 16:42.
You and bomdigie are 2 sides of the same coin. Both part of a dirty alliance that finds it difficult to win 1 on 1 and has to call in allies.
He razed into EOWCF exactly like the logs told him to do it. It all starts here dweeb. Everything else is a ramification.
Little did we know the extent of the Emeriti alliance was 5 kingdoms strong but that was all revealed shortly thereafter. Don't get me started on the coincidences of those 5 kingdoms before He razed into EOWCF exactly like the logs told him to do it.
Last edited by bombdigie; 09-07-2015 at 16:48.
It is so obvious that the Emeriti alliance is attempting recruit members for next age by trying to smear the anti Emeriti alliance as the bad guys. Your attempts are feeble, petty, and pathetic! Just like how you got crushed. Looking forward to the fireworks next age boys!
You convert every coincidence into fact.
But the facts and patterns are clear to see, constant 2v1 from the so called 'fair play' alliance.
If Emeriti really were an alliance as you conspire there is no doubt you would have lost. The only alliance is clear and being played out perfectly as the age goes on.
Last edited by lampost; 09-07-2015 at 17:00.
What can I say, you created a monster!
Also that is a pathetic baseless argument that the only reason Emeriti lost is not due to their incompetence but because they weren't part of an alliance. Sorry, but your alliance got smashed to @#$%, better luck next time.
I don't think there's anything hard to understand about the position which you're personally painting.
If we were to assume that your posts were that of fair play alliances stand point then it would be quite obvious that it's made up of a bunch of hypocritical tools who will use any justification to gang up on KDs who have stayed neutral in conflicts. I'm kind of unsure how you can form an alliance to protect against one group of people then right off the back of that use it to force the ends of 1v1 conflicts.
So while I don't know if you're right or wrong about AWAR II next age, I think it would take a pretty stupid person to not imagine that a lot of KDs right now are wondering if they might be next in line to take a kicking & how best to protect themselves.
Just to add as well, I'm sure ASF and ABS side look at this and love it as a way to get one up on people they're arguing with, but I'm trying to make points from EDs side.
While you might be happy to toss around things like "because we can" knowing that it doesn't matter because (I assume) you don't really have any say in the leadership side of things (much like I get a lot of freedom in what I say for the same reasons), the more serious consideration is that ED is not some whoring KD who are trying to crown Land/NW every age but rather in the "warring tier" where FS is. There are also a lot of KDs who fall into that bracket who would need to consider how they play the game based off the back of guidelines which seem to have been created years ago between 2 whoring alliances.
As FS is a "top" warring KD, then everyone in that tier likely has some form of future relations with them with the knowledge that if they're not happy with how negotiations go then they're liable to run off and ask for help and recieve it. All of this effects more people than you'd imagine, some likely don't care while some very much do care, at the very least it seems logical that if the alliance are going to try and police the game then they need to come out and put some rules in place, then I would assume the server decides if they're fair or if they'll resist.
Last edited by silverfox; 09-07-2015 at 17:35.
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