The U (#4) v/s Settlers (#5)

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<sn0wballz> so you think we will cf soon? not sure why we would need to leave it open
<sn0wballz> you all are looking to crown, we are just looking to stay top 10
<Mithras> We are open for a cf
<sn0wballz> under what terms?
<Mithras> It was diskussed at length with elixer
<Mithras> Did he mention anything?
<sn0wballz> yeah i think he mentioned you all wanted land
<Mithras> yes
<sn0wballz> at first it was something i considered but atm i dont think we need to do that
<Mithras> Ok
<Mithras> Lets have a war then :)



How do you get that to a free cf offer? It is clearly stated that they are asking us for a cf. We are asking for either acres for cf or a fight.

Ah, here comes the Emeriti spin.

Let's refresh, everyone.
Step 1: "We had to train up, they refused to CF us and were robbing us for 50-100M, ruining our prep"
Dorje comes in -- 'oops, it was closer to 3M'
Step 2: "They were clearly going to wave us, they refused to CF us, they forced us to train up!"
Settlers waved other kds and agreed to war with Chrystal.
Settlers had offered Emeriti a CF.
Step 3: "Well, when we said they refused to CF us, we mean they weren't willing to give us LAND"
Okay hoss. You aren't entitled to land, you have to be able to take it. Your decision to dodge because you couldn't get free land is on you. You can't claim they made you train up -- they were offering you a CF. A CF with no consequences to you, even. You just wanted more.

Oh, one more thing Mithras? This statement:

How do you get that to a free cf offer? It is clearly stated that they are asking us for a cf.

Is uhh.. yeah. They are asking for a CF. And you guys are claiming that they were refusing to CF you. So something is at odds. Either they were willing to CF or they weren't. And it seems like everyone can agree that they were. So it must, then, be you who was not.


CK: That post was in response to bombdigity, who is in pyro and they refused to CF us.

The situation now is quite different from the situation prior you guys going full retard. I think we net-gained 600a from Settlers, and lost 500 cow acres in the process for our CF. A free CF while you're in the midst of prepping for conflict is not unreasonable or unexpected.

Everyone knows what's going to happen, we're just all waiting for the inevitable. They know it and you know it. Pretending otherwise is dumb, and pretending that your fight with a ghetto protects you is equally so. To quote ASF -

After it became widely accepted to let kingdoms fight 1v1, many kingdoms realized "Hey, that kingdom over there that might beat us says they are about to wave us. Let's quick wave some other kingdom and tell them that they are dishonorable if they wave us like they said they were about to."

This was then extended into, "Let's also say we'll never cf the smaller kingdom we waved so that no one can ever wave us without being called dishonorable! We can even explore and pump while having imaginary protection form anyone touching us that we didn't choose ourselves to wave!"

Conveniently, that's exactly what you've attempted to do by trying to dodge.