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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne View Post
    Regarding the current situation. Merry XMAS 2016!

    My gift to you guys is a wall of text!

    [11:57] L: Yo
    [12:02]*CJ:*Sup
    [12:04]*L:*You keeping up with this drama in X:X?
    [23/12 12:04] CJ: Just read forums ytd
    [23/12 12:04] CJ: If I were to pick a side, I think fs is more correct
    [23/12 12:07] CJ: Basically from what I read on the forums. Fs and SS were 3k honour difference with SS coming out of war.
    [23/12 12:07] CJ: Fs wanted to secure honour crown.
    [23/12 12:07] CJ: SS wanted to hide and run away like find another war and hopefully honour crown
    [23/12 12:07] CJ: If you were fs. You would do the exact same thing
    [23/12 12:07] CJ: I would
    [23/12 12:08] CJ: I would wave SS and make sure I have sufficient honour lead.

    X [12:54 PM] : FS tried to bully, which they always do!
    cj [12:54 PM] : Fs tried to secure their honour crown. X, You would do the same thing as they did
    X [12:55 PM] : CJ, If i wanted to do it, I wouldnt hit a kd and keep hitting them
    cj [12:57 PM] : X, when will you stop hitting as fs then?
    I will stop when there's enough buffer between me and the #2 honour kd I'm hitting
    Or when #2 honour kd agrees not to crown and have shenanigans at end of age
    Define what's 'hitting too much '? After you do so, then consider did fs hit too much?
    It was 3k honour difference at first. They were at like 110k honour.
    Any ww by #2 SS would generate at least 15-20k honour

    X [1:00 PM] : I would jut try to get 1-2 waves or sort diplomacy after 1st wave, which clearly FS ignored
    cj [1:00 PM] : SS didn't want to sign some sort of we will not crown etc, from what I read in the forums even though they said they wont. We all know a ww by #2 will make them leapfrog fs.
    X [1:01 PM] : CJ, you cannot ask a kd not to crown 10 days before the age, in the war tier, its generally the rule that if there is an agreed war, they do not hit! Just like the top tier has the notice thing but FS in their arrogance ignored it
    cj [1:02 PM] : Then if they don't agree to crown. I will ensure that I crown by creating a decent gap between my honour and their honour. I don't know how true is that agreed war btw. Let's just say that I also don't have a good opinion of Francis. But still think fs has more right

    [23/12 12:08] CJ: I suspect the gb was started might have been by SS and friends first
    [23/12 12:08] L: How do you know ss started it?
    [23/12 12:08] CJ: They maxed meter and had 2-3 other kds rk fs shortly after war declare
    [23/12 12:08] CJ: Take a SN
    [23/12 12:08] L: That's my biggest question
    [23/12 12:09] CJ: The razes were onto fs first
    [23/12 12:09] L: Sn isn't proof that SS gbed them
    [23/12 12:09] CJ: Ss can claim yhat they didn't arrange for friends to help... it's a possibility.
    [23/12 12:09] L: It's just evidence that fs got razed
    [23/12 12:09] CJ: But..
    [23/12 12:09] CJ: Who the **** max meter against a kd much larger without any plans when it's #2 honour vs #1 honour
    [23/12 12:10] CJ: I am just basing off forums and my own interpretation. It can't be confirmed it was coordinated. But feels so.
    [23/12 12:10] L: Yeah idk
    [23/12 12:10] CJ: Doesn't make sense to max meter and give the honour crown to fs .. unless you have plans
    [23/12 12:11] CJ: I mean. Ss were ****ing pissed that fs waved them for honour and gave them no shot at honour crown (since they couldn't hide or run further).
    [23/12 12:11] CJ: Why would you max meter declare and farm out?
    Those top kds involved with currently razing SS are just doing so based on the assumption that SS had planned an organized gb on FS, even though the logs and events that unfolded show otherwise. Conveniently, FS asks their allies again for help razing not those responsible for razing into war, but SS, while vehementy denying they are in any sort of alliance. How else do you think the Feyr play alliance involved (FS, Pyro, BB, Wsk, and now Crazies due to ex-bb leader) can justify their now 1000+ razes into SS, if their only crime is standing up to ****play by FS. Of course not, they have to weave it so that they have a reason to gangbang SS to help their allies FS crown, as they revealed. Funny, FS was gonna crown anyway, SS wasn't even competiting for the crown (anyone really think SS will gain honor from prepping for agreed war with Divinity and surpass FS who is randoming for 3k honor per day?), but they still feel the need to assert their superiority.

    Ponder this: Lost souls and Ruthless had broke CF with FS on their own accord during hostile prior to maxing meter (due to their hate for FS as a result of previous ****play) as their monarchs have mentioned, whereas immediately after maxing meter they had very few armies remaining to actually raze chained provs of FS (in fact Lost sould only started razing FS 13 hours after conflict began, and only 4 players from Ruthless razed FS before 13 hours had passed, as previously mentioned). So your accusations that SS planned razekills on FS shortly after declare is blatantly wrong. Why do something so counter productive if this was an organized event. And we all know what feint is capable of and their strained relationship with markers and SS, so is anyone actually surprised about birdies?

    But now those KDs involved in razing SS know its too late to pull out now. They can't just apologize and say, sorry we broke EOACF with you and razed you 1000+ times into war for the crime of standing up to FS ****play.

    Edit: Regarding why we chose to war FS instead of just bowing down like the rest:
    Their wave essentially ruined all hope we had of having another fun war before EOA because all initial hits were on our tms who got raped not only honor-wise but military-wise. This also put an end to our agreed war with Divinity, the only target near our range who wasnt tagged war or was in war at that time, since we also offered FS war if they landdrop but they declined. In doing this wave, they ignore a total of 3 pms, proposing we not compete for honor crown and our agreed war plans. They propose their cf offer which involve us not ever surpassing 85% of FS honor and needing to intra raze our honor away if we ever do, and prevent us from warring any kds FS are cfed with, such cf terms basically means we have to stagnate until EOA to meet FS's desires. All this just so we can beg FS to stop hitting us, and ypu question why we didnt take it? This was the second time we got waved by FS this age while they are out of declare range. This was the not the first time they ****played us because some people in our KD already been victims of previous ****play by FS and wanted to war regardless of result. Need any more reasons?
    Last edited by Duke_; 24-12-2015 at 10:29.

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