Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
This what I've gathered:

-FS was #1 honor, SS was #2 honor. FS was ahead by about 3k.
-FS had a standing CF with SS, but no terms on it, meaning they were free to break it whenever they want.
-SS were planning on getting another war, which if they would have won, would have most certainly put them ahead of FS for honor.


I see nothing lame/wrong about FS actively working to secure their crown. They didn't break any deals. They didn't wave some scrub kingdom with nothing to offer just to be a bunch of jerks. It was #1 waving #2. Everything else is QQ.
I disagree. I do think it's a lame move on FS part.
On the same coin if SS was bigger, it would be legitimazing SS raze killing FS provinces so they could drop FS honor, and ensure the honor crown for themselves.

It's a dick move.
If you want honor crown, fight wars and win them.
Don't ****play smaller kingdoms to stop them from getting a legitmate crown.

In your logic Godlys kingdom would just take honor crown because they would wave/raze the other top 10 honor crown contenders to make sure they don't crown. It's dumb and it's definitely not honorable.
Want a crown, then fight and win wars and earn it. Dont ****play others so you can steal it from them.

And p.s:
i have no idea what the backstory for this is.. just going off what palem said that FS are much bigger than SS, and decided to wave them to stop SS from having a war where they could possibly surpass FS in honor.