PI vs Sparta: A Top Funding Story

[Pillz]

Well apparantly 2 kingdoms were involved in shady play last age n this age.

Last age Spartans funding a ghetto in their war with CR. CR got angry and got that Ghetto gbed.

This age CR funded spartans 18-20 hrs before our conflict. CR admits that they knew about our cf with spartans and they made a deal so spartans could stomp us cos they would be much better pumped compared to us. CR knows that if they notice us then we will fsu them and ruin their age since Emeriti will be bigger than them by the time this drama with us ends. So they had to hire a mercenary to do this.

But does any kd in here have the balls to GB CR and sparta? NOPE!

RoO was in #tactics saying we would police/gb anybody. And we will if the other kds support it.

I like honest **** play. Double hostile and gbs and dbs. These schemes, taxation and Acres4gold and equal farm out deals (which I know I have 4 of) are bull****. I agree they are bad for the game, both player-wise and game play wise in general.

They're purposefully designed to create a barrier and safety net between the top and the possibility a competitor might farm out some ghetto due to the incredibly decreased number of kingdoms that can even pretend to be serious. Literally like 6 on the server.

Also gonna say here I would consider it to be a db of eoacf should anybody fund an opponent of ours before or during a conflict.

[astron]

I think I'm quite on the fence regarding treating "CR" as the same entity this and last age. Peetah / Dubai did not play in CR last age so it is questionable to hold them against what happened last age as Zauper was the one leading back then.

Everyone throws around 'abs' a lot but how many really hold (actioned) Emeriti accountable based on past grudges / precedents of PewPew / Sanc / Rage ?

Nevertheless, funding gc into conflict was lame if it was known in advance. I think it was CR's onus to do due diligence to have smell the conflict coming. If anyone plays coy here, we're all just lying to ourselves. Every action of every kingdom near the top can be predicted with 99.99% confidence, simply because there's so little KD now and the variables are limited.

On the other hand, Bart is gonna Bart. He offered a Yr5 CF to PI but was turned down, that made it pretty clear PI was gonna go for Sparta, so I guess he just did the best he could to prepare (gc deal) to jump PI instead.

[Judge]

RoO was in #tactics saying we would police/gb anybody. And we will if the other kds support it.

I like honest **** play. Double hostile and gbs and dbs. These schemes, taxation and Acres4gold and equal farm out deals (which I know I have 4 of) are bull****. I agree they are bad for the game, both player-wise and game play wise in general.

They're purposefully designed to create a barrier and safety net between the top and the possibility a competitor might farm out some ghetto due to the incredibly decreased number of kingdoms that can even pretend to be serious. Literally like 6 on the server.

Also gonna say here I would consider it to be a db of eoacf should anybody fund an opponent of ours before or during a conflict.

But why would you knowingly fund a kingdom who is giving notice to another kingdom..

Funding till mid way is still fine as teh kd gets gc for acres. But why do it whn you yourself were victim to it last age?

CR is trying to be more n more pathetic every age!

[flogger]

Well apparantly 2 kingdoms were involved in shady play last age n this age.

Last age Spartans funding a ghetto in their war with CR. CR got angry and got that Ghetto gbed.

This age CR funded spartans 18-20 hrs before our conflict. CR admits that they knew about our cf with spartans and they made a deal so spartans could stomp us cos they would be much better pumped compared to us. CR knows that if they notice us then we will fsu them and ruin their age since Emeriti will be bigger than them by the time this drama with us ends. So they had to hire a mercenary to do this.

But does any kd in here have the balls to GB CR and sparta? NOPE!

Spartans funded a CR opponent then CR funds sparta the next age? Seems odd

There's no way to prevent someone from getting GC from a top kd, GC is just way too inconsequential now that science is free. You coulda just as easily gotten GC from one of the other top kds if you needed it.

Also, smart top leadership spaces their CFs out so they don't get vultured when in the top 10. It only takes a few days to get all the GC you need yourself. If you can't manage to get those days then odds are ya ****ed up your CF durations.

If I was coding the game, I'd eliminate the "rob the vaults" and "fools gold" operations, as too much of the game is based on the balance between military and economy, then probably cap the amount of GC one could have. In a game with non inactive players, robbing someone is rather useless. All kingdoms of similar sizes have CFs with eachother. Robbing is only done in practice between kingdoms of really disproportionate sizes (meaning its bad), or in pre-war when both sides have too much GC (solved when capped).

[Judge]

I think I'm quite on the fence regarding treating "CR" as the same entity this and last age. Peetah / Dubai did not play in CR last age so it is questionable to hold them against what happened last age as Zauper was the one leading back then.

Everyone throws around 'abs' a lot but how many really hold (actioned) Emeriti accountable based on past grudges / precedents of PewPew / Sanc / Rage ?

Nevertheless, funding gc into conflict was lame if it was known in advance. I think it was CR's onus to do due diligence to have smell the conflict coming. If anyone plays coy here, we're all just lying to ourselves. Every action of every kingdom near the top can be predicted with 99.99% confidence, simply because there's so little KD now and the variables are limited.

On the other hand, Bart is gonna Bart. He offered a Yr5 CF to PI but was turned down, that made it pretty clear PI was gonna go for Sparta, so I guess he just did the best he could to prepare (gc deal) to jump PI instead.

We have a precedence of kingdoms holding grudges on kingdoms and players..

Like Abs did for versace/sonata ls(past)
Like Bart has for Pandas(present)

[astron]

We have a precedence of kingdoms holding grudges on kingdoms and players..

Like Abs did for versace/sonata ls(past)
Like Bart has for Pandas(present)

I can't comment on the past, abs is no longer around and I can't change sonanta's plight. It is also Bart's prerogative to say whatever he wants about treating you guys as Panda, it only really matters if he puts it all into action and deal breaks (tit-for-tat on what Panda did to Sparta) you, then he will be taking a gamble with the server police once they are done with the crown race.

Anyone can "claim" whatever they want, but when words/threats are actually put into action, the aggressor better pray that the wind is on their back.

[flogger]

Pretty sure emeriti gets all the sanc/rage baggage, but probably not Pew since Pet isn't there, and everyone likes Bin Bin, even if they are mostly Pew players. Generally the baggage goes with whomever people assume are the decision makers, which is a benefit of being a core player. Bin probably is monarch and makes a lotta the decisions, but I think people assume if a traditional abs bigwig disagreed with him the ASF/dorje types would be able to overrule. This could be completely wrong, but is the assumption. Abs/Rage was always good at finding a guy to be the monarch and put in the effort and run the kd, but ASF can go 5 ages without playing but if a big diplomatic incident happens he'll come back and be the main leader. Likewise if dorje was in non-slacking mode and cared and was playing 5+ hours a day he'd be the one people would follow. Bin doing the diplo is super smart by them, as he's easy to talk to.

Then again, having the sanc/rage baggage isn't a big deal, as there aren't really any anti-abs kingdoms/leaders out there anymore. Random People give them **** about random incidents but its behind them at this point. No one important is out there trying to screw them because they are abs. By now everyone hates/dislikes everyone else equally.

[astron]

what kinda baggage apart from just trolling / name calling ? i haven't seen anyone coming up to say "zomgawd u ****played me in age 20 im gonna keel now nao" which is what Sparta is trying to claim on PI. moreover, if we wanna claim namesake baggages, Panda supposedly DB Sparta last age, and peetah was there. Now peetah is the one who made the deal to give Sparta gc, so what gives ?

Sparta db Panda. Panda gives Sparta gc next age to fight.... Panda again ?

[flogger]

what kinda baggage apart from just trolling / name calling ? i haven't seen anyone coming up to say "zomgawd u ****played me in age 20 im gonna keel now nao" which is what Sparta is trying to claim on PI.

well Sparta are douches and just need to get gangbanged to oblivion already, WTF are y'all waiting for? Emeriti just won the age, just take em out 2-3 ages in a row once the top is decided till they quit.

[astron]

well Sparta are douches and just need to get gangbanged to oblivion already, WTF are y'all waiting for? Emeriti just won the age, just take em out 2-3 ages in a row once the top is decided till they quit.

Is the flog returning home to take charge ?! I'll gladly put Bart up on the stake in exchange to flogflog back.

[2Utopian]

It only took 3 pages to derail. Now all we need is elit and asf to exchange text walls hearkening back to 1856.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Is the flog returning home to take charge ?! I'll gladly put Bart up on the stake in exchange to flogflog back.

You are the one who was offering all those GC deals to every 'most every KD on the server. Why don't you talk about that? Now you want to GB Bart but you don't have the guts to say something like that about CR? You are a hypocrite and a traitor, not worth the black under my nails.

EDIT:
I don't even have long enough nails to have anything black under them, does that make me racist? Statement still stands though.

[Pillz]

On topic by the way, but I interpret astron's remarks regarding zauper's absence as an endorsement for gb based on said absence.

[Pillz]

CR and Sparta should hostile until maxing both meters, all the while both are gb'd by any body who wants to participate. During war as well, of course.


This way both kds are gbd at once, and they can help gb each other.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Current kingdom is Ancient Spartans BSA.

I like where this is heading.