Term Interpretation Consultancy

[Elldallan]

Bart has stated he is not plotting to dethrone ASF. Bart has, as of yet, not won the Age 71 province land crown.

Whether he has or hasn't is irrelevant, he can break the deal as posted without actually crowning. Yes he has said he doesn't intend to dethrone ASF, but the thing is that Bart has a, shall we say sketchy record, so I wouldn't necessarily take his word for it if his actions seems to indicate something else.

And again, I would contend, echoing back to a previous post of mine, that to compete would require an concerted in-game effort by 8:9. No such effort is being undertaken (Bart is not farming acres from other banks, nor is he knocking down farm wars). The actions of 3rd parties can't be said to factor into the agreement, and no verifiable proof can be (or has been thus far) presented to suggest Bart is in fact conspiring against 8:13. It's Bart's word against unsubstantiated hearsay.

As stated by the dictionary you told Palem to go look up you can unconsciously compete with somebody, therefore it naturally follows that no concentrated ingame effort wouldn't and indeed couldn't be a requirement. Indirect action or unconscious action is sufficient if orchestrated by a party to the deal. If Bart is for example scheming with other kingdoms to try and have Kingdom C take #1 from ASF and then take #1 from Kingdom C then he is actively in competition for #1 regardless of whether he himself takes any action until ASF has already been dethroned.

And again, Bart is not barred from competing. Just with ASF and thus only for so long as ASF has the opportunity to crown. If ASF's opportunity passes, Bart is in the clear.

Not if Bart was actively trying to make ASF's opportunity pass because then he was in fact "actively striving to establish his dominance over ASF", ie compete with ASF and thus he would be in breach of the deal.

And again, I do not believe that precedent set in previous situations allows for any conspiratorial activity by Bart to be considered a DB. Bart is free to take any effort he pleases to stop ASF from crowning as long as those efforts occur outside of the sphere of his in-game actions. If he were to benefit from any such conspiracy by virtue of no longer being beholden to clause #3 of his deal with ASF, that would merely be a happy bonus.

Sure there might be no precedent on this issue yet. But the usage of the word compete clearly sets a standard, which is that if Bart is by any means consciously or unconsciously trying to gain dominance over ASF then he is competing with ASF which is forbidden under the terms of the deal. On the other hand he is free to take any action that cannot be viewed as competing or trying to assert dominance, for example he can try to ruin ASF by indirect means as long as he doesn't gain from it, but if at any point in time he gains from it then he is competing and thus he is in breach of terms.


The dictionaries are pretty clear as to what sort of actions constitutes competing, and as such anything that can be considered as competing is banned.

:to strive consciously or unconsciously for an objective (such as position, profit, or a prize) : be in a state of rivalry
:to try to get or win something (such as a prize or reward) that someone else is also trying to win : to try to be better or more successful than someone or something else.
:Strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others.