Can we talk about IP blocks?

[chadde]

Same old ****. You wanna cheat leagl. Spend some rl gold and get more than one isp. Spectrum, ATT, google, work, phone, local library. U guys are lazy and poor.

How would me having 20 ISPs at home change the fact I share an IP with my coworkers?

[Bishop]

I didn't say it is the biggest issue, but it is one issue. I have 5-6 work mates I would invite to my kd in a heart beat if there wasn't an IP block. Of course we all have our separate Internet accounts at home, but we would also all need to play from work. The current implementation of the block means if we all go online from work and then at home we're still blocked.

A better solution would be to identify our user patterns and realize that these 6 provinces share an IP for 9 hours on fixed times monday to friday, then have separate IP at night and weekends = clearly coworkers and not a multi.

That's not a solution chadde, that just allows someone to xlog 6 accounts from their office.

The IP block just stops people interacting with each other, it doesn't stop you recruiting your 6 workmates.

[chadde]

That's not a solution chadde, that just allows someone to xlog 6 accounts from their office.

The IP block just stops people interacting with each other, it doesn't stop you recruiting your 6 workmates.

Sorry I think we're misunderstanding each other. What I am proposing is more of an automatic white list. So, the six of us log on from work - we're IP blocked. Bam. But then after recognizing that day in and day out we all have separate IPs after 6PM and on weekends, I think you can safely assume we're working together. We all have a few unique IPs, home internet, phone etc, but we share ONE on very specific days and hours. How could I possibly xlog that without actually getting twelve different IPs?

Edit: I assumed 12 IPs on the grounds that most people play from their phone and from home. So two unique IPs each.

Edit 2: Also, there are no final "solutions" there are only ways of making your system smarter. Anti cheater/hacker measures are an ongoing process, not something you just implement in a day and it's solved. Hence the importance of collecting user data and analyze behaviour.

[Korp]

What he's saying there will be no guarantee that each one of you will log the accounts at work might be just for example

[chadde]

What he's saying there will be no guarantee that each one of you will log the accounts at work might be just for example

Well if we one of my new recruits never logs on from work him and I would never be blocked from each other anyway.

[Korp]

Might just be you for example* clarifying

[Bishop]

Sorry I think we're misunderstanding each other. What I am proposing is more of an automatic white list. So, the six of us log on from work - we're IP blocked. Bam. But then after recognizing that day in and day out we all have separate IPs after 6PM and on weekends, I think you can safely assume we're working together. We all have a few unique IPs, home internet, phone etc, but we share ONE on very specific days and hours. How could I possibly xlog that without actually getting twelve different IPs?

Edit: I assumed 12 IPs on the grounds that most people play from their phone and from home. So two unique IPs each.

Edit 2: Also, there are no final "solutions" there are only ways of making your system smarter. Anti cheater/hacker measures are an ongoing process, not something you just implement in a day and it's solved. Hence the importance of collecting user data and analyze behaviour.

Again, that just means if you choose to under your system you would be free to xlog all the accounts while at work.

[chadde]

Again, that just means if you choose to under your system you would be free to xlog all the accounts while at work.

Not without paying for 12 different IPs? The cross reference to the night time/weekend IPs is an important factor here. If after 6PM the accounts completely spread out and use different IPs, different ISPs and devices, it is obviously not me xlogging 6 accounts. Or if I am, I'm way too dedicated to this game and should seek treatment.

[chadde]

It would be really great to get some feedback from Uto devs in here btw. Most of the responses I get are from forum mods, trolls and lunatics.

[Korp]

Not without paying for 12 different IPs? The cross reference to the night time/weekend IPs is an important factor here. If after 6PM the accounts completely spread out and use different IPs, different ISPs and devices, it is obviously not me xlogging 6 accounts. Or if I am, I'm way too dedicated to this game and should seek treatment.

You gotta learn the difference between multi and xlogging. Xlogging you have 12 different people playing but you log them all at work instead of them.

It would be really great to get some feedback from Uto devs in here btw. Most of the responses I get are from forum mods, trolls and lunatics.

Bishop is game support so he's the one that handles all those cases. That's a pretty childish attitude you got going there though people have different opinions than you.

[chadde]

You gotta learn the difference between multi and xlogging. Xlogging you have 12 different people playing but you log them all at work instead of them.



Bishop is game support so he's the one that handles all those cases. That's a pretty childish attitude you got going there though people have different opinions than you.

1. Bishop brought up xlogging, and it's the same mechanism anyway.
2. My attitude is fine, he was filed under "forum mods", not "trolls" or "lunatics". I'm sure you can guess which category you're in.

[Bishop]

Not without paying for 12 different IPs? The cross reference to the night time/weekend IPs is an important factor here. If after 6PM the accounts completely spread out and use different IPs, different ISPs and devices, it is obviously not me xlogging 6 accounts. Or if I am, I'm way too dedicated to this game and should seek treatment.

So you xlog your mates accounts all day at work. The ip block was brought in specifically because people were doing this - logging for their housemates.

[Bishop]

It would be really great to get some feedback from Uto devs in here btw. Most of the responses I get are from forum mods, trolls and lunatics.

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You've already had the owners reply in here. Your suggested solution doesn't address the issue.

[protector]

1. Bishop brought up xlogging, and it's the same mechanism anyway.
2. My attitude is fine, he was filed under "forum mods", not "trolls" or "lunatics". I'm sure you can guess which category you're in.

Bishop isn't *just* a forum mod, Bishop is THE LAW.
That said, that would also be a more appropriate title for him so he doesn't fall under the same category as a nub like Palem :-)

[chadde]

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You've already had the owners reply in here. Your suggested solution doesn't address the issue.

Yes it does? What am I missing?