1-0 vs him ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
har har har
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1-0 vs him ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
har har har
One is a nonsense war between two kds that have warred before for one to dodge a larger kd (where they did some shady deal about avoidin bank conflict) and the other is a normal wave that land/nw kds going for crown make all the time to gain acres. I don't think you know what cognitive dissonance is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
you do realise you're not smart right?Quote:
Originally Posted by sig
I don't care that they did it, I just find it amusing since they wailed and cried about how immoral what we did was.
The difference between the two instances, for any of you who are interested, is that when pewnoobs organised thier war with debauch to allow them to escape from us, we were supposed to be allied, and they had to dissolve a yr 10 CF to do it, while when we waved jerks we had no deal with them and pewpew already told us we're not allies anymore.
Think fast bro, its obvious AMA is a superior kd to Pewpew, if AMA wouldnt been allies with Pewpew they would been a target for acres, follow so far? Good! So we seen what Pewpew does in the face of a superior enemy, they reset so when AMA would come after Pewpew, Pewpew would ofc reset again.Quote:
Originally Posted by sydex
hmmmm...... Y u so mean Korpy?
AMA and Pew seem angry at one another... AMA should wave Pew and get a top war going. All this competing for kd's farming out is boring. WARAR!
Truth hurts bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
but its not the truth Korpybejb :)
Anyway I think AMA and PewPew should solve their problems in 1v1 war rather than keep moaning in forums abt each others controversial moves.
Would PewPew accept such offer, or they can only arrange wars vs way weaker kds who just got oow from another war?
I would like to quote my wellspoken kingdom mate NAPSTER:
Also, why has nobody given any input yet on what Simians thinks?!Quote:
[19:09:32] <NAPSTER__> blah 2 hours 9 pages
[19:09:37] <NAPSTER__> are u insane
[19:09:40] <NAPSTER__> its summer
[19:09:42] <NAPSTER__> go out
[19:09:56] <NAPSTER__> drink f*** and so on
[19:10:09] <NAPSTER__> this people are crazy]
strong words from a kingdom with a 30k size advantage (which they only got from hitting into war) and a late age setup vs early age setup. We will test your warring ability early age next age :)
Don't recall AMA winning anything besides that war vs Sanc last age. Just a bunch of dirty moves on Simians/PewPew and climbing to the top on the backs of their allies.
Anyway, i am done with this thread. Everyone involved knows what happened and the rest are just throwing mud at whichever set of kingdoms they like less.
So you didnt reset against Rage last age cause you would get your ass whopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
****, i thought the farmwar had something to do with the size.Quote:
strong words from a kingdom with a 30k size advantage (which they only got from hitting into war) and a late age setup vs early age setup. We will test your warring ability early age next age :)
We reset because it was a sudden idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Proteus started crying as soon as we waved Sanc, about how we were taking his ally acres. Later he was crying that if we would get large enough we would notice him, and that there would be no landdropping, a move he had completely missed in the original deal and wanted to add that to the deal. Now we didn't want to landdrop at all, however he was really being jerk about it.
Meanwhile we have no idea if we were going to be in range or not, and we ended up not being.
Then he nagged about a war against us etc etc, so we decided to give it a go. But later on when he really set up to ensure loooooong hostile, and only acres, no nw, we were getting really tired of him. We wanted war, didn't really matter if we win or loose, but we wouldn't farmout.
Eventually someone came up with the idea to simply reset, and he would pay for it for the entire kd. Everyone thought this idea was awsome and decided to do it. So we did it, because it was so unexpected, and it was to shut up Proteus big mouth.
I'm sure we would have lost that war, no matter what we did, and we really wanted to give it a try, but a simple farmout by a loong hostile was just so boooooring. And really nobody was up for a war on those terms.
I think this age has surpassed all expectations.
So I assume u r refusing to fight for crown in 1v1 fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
Please. AMA gained only 14k acres from Strippers, so we still would be leading. While u landdropped for free several ghettos this age including Pyromaniacs, Havoc and some other unknown ghettos. Add there 2 arranged friendly wars with known outcome be4 war... Ur acres smell even worse than AMA's, freaking hypocrite ;)
So if we r so bad at warring, why not war us and win crown? :)
But yeah, next age we will war for sure ;)
think that if that makes you sleep better at night. you're just butt-sore cause you been playing 2nd fiddle to AMA all age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
btw whos farming us?
Just be a man and admit it, you pussied out big time. But I guess cowards hide behind lies to make them justify their actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost
Situation A.Quote:
Originally Posted by sydex
AMA notices Debauchery with the clear plan to make 1 wave and cf (let's say about 20-23k acres the most). There is big acre difference, but such things happen all the time. Usually the smaller kd makes a deal gives the acres.
Debauchery offers war to Pewpew. Pewpew are smaller than AMA, and also Debauchery claim they have more chances against Pewpew. Also everyone now claims that was an equal conflict between two kds in range. I still wait for a summary of PewPew's gains from this war. It is at least 30k.
Pewpew got offered a war and massive land boost and they took it. They didn't notice their ally AMA, because they assumed AMA would hit Debauchery anyway.
I have couple of questions:
1. Why Debauchery trades 30K+ acres lost in war +15k lost from AMA (they were warned they are gonna be waved in such situation), instead of losing 20k to AMA?
2. Why would Debauchery take a war they cannot win (if you think otherwise give any arguments and facts that they had chance against pew)? DId they get acres? No. DId they got WW? No. DId they damage pew's cows? No.
So to sum it up AMA noticed Deba, Deba offered a war to Pewpew, Pew accepted claiming they do not owe explanations to AMA. According to Pew and Deba that was not :
- stealing AMA's target
- interfering in 1on1 conflict from Pewpew's side
- not a fake war (despite no chance of deba to win, no serious damage done to cows, and heavy acre gains from Pewpew).
Gains:
Pewpew - 30-40k (instead of 0 if they didn't interfere)
AMA - 15k (instead of 20k from Deba)
Deba - -40-50k (instead of -20k)
And we move to Situation B:
Pewpew noticed Jerks. They didn't inform AMA whatsoever. 1 hours before notice expired AMA waves Jerks for 7-8k acres, get's retaled for 3-4k. Total gain 4-5k acres. Pewpew waves Jerks (please somebody update that intel). Jerks retal for 10k.
Again we have a kd that sends a notice (AMA vs pewpew), again a second kd interferes in the conflict (Pewpew first now AMA).
So what i really do not understand is how Pewpew can say their actions were fine and the actions of AMA now are not?
- The say AMA was way bigger than Jerks. pewpew are also way bigger.
- Pewpew claim they got dirty played by AMA in both cases. And how when they interfered was not dirty play and now when AMA does it it is? Because Pew and deba were equal kds? Read above my analysis on the situation. Because AMA is way bigger than Jerks?! You all say AMA have no rights to claim targets, not a right of explanation who others hit or not. Yet everybody cries when we hit someone. Who are we supposed to hit ? From all situations we were not allowed to hit Debauchery (cause of pewpew) and now Jerks (again by pewpew). BB, Simians and Pew are supposed to be allies. And the only kd outside that is SWEA. And the only reason why we didn't hit them, nor helped Simians is because Pewpew and Debauchery threatened us with gb.
So Pewpew says we **** played them?
Situation A they gained 30-40k acres from a kd we noticed, we gained 15k. Here we lost at least 10k acres they gained at least 30k
Situation B again they will gain more land than our 5k gains and they say we interfered in a conflict the same way they did.
Sitation C we didn't wave/war SWEA because of threats from Pewpew and Deba. Here you can easily guess that is at least 20-30k acres we DIDN'T get because of Pewpew.
So please tell me again, who **** played who?!
bla bla bla
Size advantage would have been more had u not backstabbed them so yeah, you're the ones hanging on by a thread due to ****playing others but hey lets not get hung up on details...Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
The truth is that there's really no one with clean hands in this entire situation, however I think pews are the dirtiest at the moment.
But then again I take trust and loyalty pretty serious, maybe others doesn't but I think pewpew backstabbing is far worse than anything AMA could have come up with short of waving pewpew out of the blue before this entire situation got started(as in before pewpew waved debauch for the second war)
PewPew's actions weren't fine IF you AMA hadn't hit into war with strippers. You'll find its easy to justify crappy actions when some one does them to you first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
Soul_Hunter ****played me today for sure ;(
Soul_hunter, you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off on the debauchery vs pewpew war.
our banks did get hurt for instance, we fought for every acre of the gains, which could have been more or less if AMA didnt interfere.
My question is why does jerks full wave us back and hits 2 times vs ama;)
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Originally Posted by Retard`
Maybe cause you double hostiled them? Duh.
5 hits on AMA, 2 out of randoms. That leaves 8 hitters home. All were texted to come hit. You hit so fast after AMA so we unloaded the rest on you. Totally understandable, just wish i had more to unload.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retard`
PewPew never double hostiled any1. PewPew never hit into war any1. Why do u spread such blatant lies Korp? ;)
you cant count? we did 5 + the 3 randoms (mrc says 2 randoms but hes old, bless him) we did a few hours before AMA waves us! and our normal wave time was around the time you waved into our hostile while we were planning and gathering players for the retals vs AMAQuote:
Originally Posted by Retard`
Can you provide summary how much land did Pewpew cows lose during that war? Cause all i saw is that Pewpew ended up having more big provinces than they had before the war - Deba didn't even take them down. They were not even close to win it. They didnt gain acres and wd. FFs Simians did better against SWEA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retard`
SH is the new ASF? that post was ridiculous, I only read the first two lines.
TLDR
Ya'll are nubs.
Munk>ALL.
He is far from ASF skills, but im think about recruit next age Proteus to make our kd posters more stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
Look like you are not enough informed about your kd deals. I know very well both wars Stripers vs Pew Pew cow fight was arranged. Its why im call both wars fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retard`
They took our hafling calf down 5k, and one of our human banks down 6k, while our biggest UB bank grew
To me it looks like you know EVERYTHING, and members of PewPew nothing. And on top of that you claim us to be misinformed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
I'm sorry but you re just writing big lies. Ain't honorable at all.
You re simply manipulating everyone and everything just like you have been doing all age.
Good joke. Pew Pew had zero ub cows from stripers cows. Your second cow get land drooped to size for double in return for main cow grow free. Same time you didn't down Stripers cows when they had very low def.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
Somebody has to replace him! Abs is dead, long live the ne w Absalom!Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
You are full of it Elit
I thought an active hostile was defined as :
1. Opponent must be in declare range. (Havoc claimed that AMA conflict with Sanct was not hostile because Sanct was clearly out of declare range)
2. There must exist a button.
3. There must have been hits in the last 12 hours.(Havoc claimed there was no hostile when AMA and Sanct had not traded hits for 12 hours)
By that random Abs definition... AMA & Jerks were 1 / 3 since they were out of declaring range... which would mean that no 'hostile' existed?
Not that I really care one way or the other... was just making a random observation.
neither play in ABS so how would some nub ABS definition apply here?Quote:
Originally Posted by ofgortens
it does not matter - we cannot turn back time.
i have played with a few of the current PewPew members and i hold no grudge against them - kingdoms as a whole are so desperate to crown these days (god knows why) its not like there's much competition anyway when most of the top 5 cf each other and pussyfoot around each other all age.
That definition was made by Goodz, so he can have excuse to double hostile AMA, coz his other excuses to justify his ****play were not serious at all.
Eh was just a definition that was formed (whether you agree or not is beside the point). I think many besides just ABS was in agreement with 'hostile' definition being that a button exists. Everyone has their own 'definition' for what is hostile and what isn't. I'm just saying that in this case, stating 'double hostile' is up for debate based off each KD's definition of hostile since a button could not exist between AMA and Jerks.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzy|
I think Korp even started a 'hostile definition' thread where nothing was really determined... but many believed that a button had to exist to be an active hostile.
All sorts of weird definitions of past stuff that went down, which has zero to do with us, is being used in this case. **** that and leave it out of this. Pew double hostiled us for acres to hunt for that elusive crown made of dirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzy|