@Palem
We are not farming honor, we gained honor cause first Outsiders refused to wd in order to stall us which lead to prolonged farm situation (we also picked land bonus over our typical choice of honor to prep for more conflicts), and now Emeriti are doing almost nothing ... they lost and cant be arsed anymore to give even a resemblance of trying.
For our part we are not taking free land and honor, we war just like we would if they did their best, we are taking down faeries and landdroped banks atm, there is no maxgaining, honor whoring, mas learns and whatnot to profit from situation.
One important thing to note. "We war like we would if they did their best" means you're honor whoring.

But yea, just saying that you haven't gotten a **** ton of free land and a **** ton of free honor doesn't mean you actually haven't gotten a **** ton of free land and honor.