Israel, it's about time!

[Nemo]

Now I understand why I can't reach you. You think that Hamas can't do nothing and is no danger to Israel. I invite you to live a year in our bombed cities and get the feel of the "diddly-squat" that Hamas is doing.

Israel wants to stop the "diddly-squat" Hamas is doing, so it attacks their artillery by air strikes and ground forces.

I was answering your question where you ask:

"If Israel would fire it's artillery from a city, would you call that a civilian target as well? Will you condone Hamas for targeting it?"

I wouldn't condone Hamas targeting it, unless they sent in their infantry and took out the artillery embankments [suppose their situated in market places] and the people operating it, not bomb the civilians that might have been there to, oh, I don't know, buy potatoes.

I don't think Hamas has the power to start an offensive into what is considered to be Israeli soil. Israel does have the power to launch an offensive into Gaza and send in it's infantry.

Israel is supposed to be on the moral high horse, remember? Israel is not getting my approval, because in my eyes it's doing the same thing Hamas does, heedlessly killing civilians with airstrikes, and sugarcoating the pill with weapons depot talk.

As I understand, allonons's point was not that the families deserve to die, but that Hamas doesn't protect its people. The terrorists tell their families to stay in the danger zone so when they die Hamas could play the victim showing more civilian deaths.

No. What he implied was that it's ok to kill civilians [women and children] as long as their family members are in Hamas. He wanted to see ID. He is the perfect example of an extremist. And as you said before, they exist on both sides of the border. It's just that in this scenario, this sort of stuff takes you by surprise.

As for sacrificing their families to play the victims, I think Israel is doing a fine job without the prompting.