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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    What I'm saying is that the target in that case would be filled with civilians. If you have the ability to lessen civilian losses by going in manually, you should do so, instead of bombing them and killing/injuring thousands. As I understand it, Israel has launched a ground attack on Saturday. There was no need to kill so many people with bombs when you could go in and neutralise the artillery sites.
    I invite you to join your nation's Intelligence corps. You might learn to assess risks. Attacking Hamas is not a walk in the park as you try to present it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    And while you're at it, you could engage Hamas face to face, just like you wanted, albeit with tanks on your side which would tarnish the glory slightly.
    We are not looking for glory, we're looking for safety and to live without terror.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    I should have used the word "ground attack". Sorry.
    So because Hamas doesn't have good ground forces it's legitimate for them to use artillery fire, but because Israel has good ground forces it's not legitimate for it to use artillery and air strikes?

    If Israel didn't have a ground force, would you say that the air strikes are OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    There cannot be 0 losses. But there doesn't have to be thousands either.
    Sadly, these are the minimal losses. If Hamas took care of its people, you would see a lot less casualties for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    I thought we decided to disagree on the boundaries.
    The fact that you say that the territory given to Israel by the UN is actually Palestinian doesn't make Israeli civilians sacrifice themselves. They just want to live their lives in safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    Anyway, I'll say again, I do not condone killing civilians, on either side.
    Yes you do. You condone the killing of civilians on the Palestinian side, but on the other hand say it's fine for Hamas to target and kill Israeli civilians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    Send in the army, neutralise the rocket sites. If it's clean cut military site, feel free to bomb the place. If you feel there is a rocket stash under a school where a bunch of kids study, send the army, move the kids, and look for the ammo dump. Don't drop a bomb on them for Christ's sake. Be the good guys you say you are.
    Hamas knows exactly where the civilians are trying to hide. Instead of going away from these places, to keep the civilians safe, they go as near as possible to these locations and use the civilians as human shields. They fire mortar shells on Israeli forces. The Israeli ground forces return fire to the source and then you blame them for the death of the civilians.

    As I said before, the civilians in the Gaza strips are victims of Hamas. If Hamas cared about its people it wouldn't have used the civilians as human shields.
    Last edited by Mourhelm; 07-01-2009 at 10:16.

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