Human Sage Example Province

[VT2]

Vines, 45 OPA breaks no one - least of all on Genesis.
I have an inactive dwarf there, with more science than you, and a better army.

Anyone can farm out inactives, and over-explored n00bs. It's good that you take pride in being able to do things common players treat as daily routine.

[Ezzerland]

to catch up in what way, vines?

If you plan to keep growing, go ahead, I can catch up and/or surpass you there too. If you're planning on fighting me, your current size is fine. I just need a few days for draft to catch up and to train my army. I don't mind having less science or etc.

[nubie]

You know what happens to the unstoppable force? It get's pushed back. Because for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Vines, it's a paradox. An unstoppable force is unstoppable and an immovable object is immovable. We are dealing with infinite values here. You should go back and relearn the fundamentals of physics. Although each action has an equal and opposite reaction, the unstoppable force has acceleration.

On topic:
150bpa in Tools: +15.9% BE
200bpa in Housing: +12% Max Population
Lord: +2% Max Population

normal PPA = 25.
PPA with 10% homes = ~29.5
PPA with 40% homes = ~32.2

10% homes:
jobs per acre = 22.5
max efficiency = 15
peasants per acre = 29.5*.3 - 1.5 = 7.35 (PPA with 70% draft - 1.5 wpa)
military per acre = 20.65
BE = ((7.35/15 + 1)/2)*1.159 = .8635 (86.35% BE)
86.35% BE of 90% buildings = 77.72% buildings at 100% BE

40% homes:
jobs per acre = 15
max efficiency = 10
peasants per acre = 32.2*.3 - 1.5 = 8.16 (PPA with 70% draft - 1.5 wpa)
military per acre = 22.54
BE = ((8.16/10 + 1)/2)*1.159 = 1.0524 (105% BE)
105% BE of 60% buildings = 63% buildings at 100% BE

So, you basically have 14.72% buildings at 100% BE to play around with running 10% homes.

10% homes:
let's say you run 1.5wpa, 1.5tpa, 12.47 elites/a, 6.68 dspec/a, 7.35 peasants/a (total of 29.5 ppa with 70% draft).
12.47*6 = 74.82 raw opa.
11.7% TGs @ 100% BE = (+13.12% OME)
3% Forts @ 100% BE = (+4.82% DME)
dspecs: 6.68*1.0482 = 7
74.82*1.1312 = 84.64 mod opa.
NW/A: 55 + 2*4 + 2*4 + 12.15*5.25 + 6*7 + 7.35 = 184
OP/NW = 0.46

40% homes:
let's say you run 1.5wpa, 1.5tpa, 14.04 elites/a, 7 dspec/a, 8.16 peasants/a (total of 32.2 ppa with 70% draft).
14.04*6 = 84.24 opa
NW/A: 55 + 2*4 + 2*4 + 14.04*5.25 + 6*7 + 8.16 = 195
OP/NW = 0.43

Results:
10% homes:
OPA: 84.64
NW/A: 184
OP/NW: 0.46

40% homes:
OPA: 84.24
NW/A: 195
OP/NW: 0.43

In conclusion, running 10% homes is more efficient than running 40% homes.

[toast]

the higher he drafts the more homes he will need to reach 100 raw BE. correct?

say for EXAMPLE (im not going to do any math here)
at 60% draft you need 20% homes for 100% raw BE
at 70% draft you need 30% homes for 100% raw BE
at 80% draft you need 40% homes for 100% raw BE

so vines just needs to draft higher to make the rest of his homes useful for BE purposes

[vines]

VT2 if I can't break no one with 45opa then tell me how I just gained almost 400 acres from land grabs with in two days? Believe me these guys had huge armies. My average opponent is 105%.

Ezzerland I just want you to get ready, and I'll do the same. I would like us to be the same size, however, if you want to fight at this land difference I will not say other wise. I look forward to our match.

[VT2]

That's not the point.
The point is that vines claims his province is 'optimal,' which we've proven repeatedly that it isn't.

Any monkey could run 50% homes, and call his province optimal, but that wouldn't make it optimal, regardless of what vines has to say about it.

[VT2]

Vines, you claim that your human has a 'huge' army, so I assume you hit people with slightly less 'huge' armies.
Spells itself out nicely, I do believe.

[vines]

It's more like:
20%homes = 50% draft
30%homes = 60% draft
ect.

There armies are bigger keep in mind that when I did the first attack two days ago. My opa was around 80opa. However gaining so had made my military look small. However, my military has not change from two days ago. The reason is because I have been launching attacks on other provinces. So that means I need money for the new buildings, drafting, training spec and elites, and money to retrain the troops I lost in battle. It is not cheap wage attack after attack with out rest.

VT2 the two provinces I did attack had over 70% and both of there BE were around 110%. They both had very large offenses. This last guy I attack had an offenses of over 110k and def of 60dpa. One was an elf the other was a dark elf.

[VT2]

Vines, you fail at farming n00bs.
Do you realize what that means?

It means you're worse than inactives.

Vines, stop making up things.
You have less than 60 OPA. You can't break someone with 60 DPA.

[Dlaf]

actually vines can. He doesnt run much thieves/wizards, so his nw/acre is lower than most people. Thus he might be able to break someone with same NW, higher dpa, but higher NW/acre too.

I dun think you understand what I just said, vines. But im not praising you. Not having much thieves/wizards is auto suicide.

[VT2]

He can't with his current army.
Vines is just a running joke.

[vines]

At 1425 acres this same offense is not 45opa.

Dlaf I don't think that's the reason I'm able to attack player bigger them me. The provinces with higher net worth per acres that does not mean they have a much larger army or stronger army. In about 99% of the time the reason for the extra net/acre is due to high tpa and wpa. So if I run the same military ratio I run my military will be strong strong enough and then once I reached the military size I want I stop training military units and work on tpa and wpa.

[VT2]

Vines - no.
Just no.

[toast]

if he doesnt war on gen having low tpa/wpa really doesnt matter cept for geting intel.

if was going to trade hits with someone 1v1 id just keep like 2 tpa and be done with it. not like im going to be NSing him or get ns back.

[Newark]

There armies are bigger keep in mind that when I did the first attack two days ago. My opa was around 80opa. However gaining so had made my military look small. .

vines, 2 days ago you had 55opa, not 80. Remember? You posted. sigh.