This thread degenerated pretty fast, actually. I will say, I know who ZZ are, but was "Godly" part of them back 20-30 ages ago? I still don't remember that nickname. Additionally, it's easy to be a top province when your kingdom is a top kingdom. Much harder when you have a kingdom that isn't. I could name several players that I am pretty sure would have destroyed Godly in a 1v1 competition. Whether they play or not is another question. The main issue I think anyone has with Godly, is that regardless of if he is a good player, he is very arrogant. Couple that with NOT actually having any major history of awesomeness (One win as a bank is not going to qualify you for the Lifetime Achievement Award.)

Anyway, I apologize for helping to derail this topic even more. Please continue posting some history pages!

P.S.
Winning a land/NW crown in a ghetto would give some bragging rights, but really, that's just selfish play. Turning a ghetto into a real kingdom and having the kingdom win something, or do well, that is a real accomplishment. Many of the best players in Utopia never finished #1, but they turned kingdoms into powers.