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[fuzzy|]

....Winning a land/NW crown in a ghetto would give some bragging rights, but really, that's just selfish play. Turning a ghetto into a real kingdom and having the kingdom win something, or do well, that is a real accomplishment. Many of the best players in Utopia never finished #1, but they turned kingdoms into powers.

lol so a 'ghetto' gets organised and becomes a 'top' kingdom (achievement obtained) then they win the age and thats no longer good enough achievement because they are no longer classed as a 'ghetto'?

@ korp - we begged for cfs last age? I dont seem to remember this but maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy - funny how its on the other foot now.

[koti00]

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Winning a land/NW crown in a ghetto would give some bragging rights, but really, that's just selfish play. Turning a ghetto into a real kingdom and having the kingdom win something, or do well, that is a real accomplishment. Many of the best players in Utopia never finished #1, but they turned kingdoms into powers.

Finally something that makes sense.

[LadyLyra]

lol so a 'ghetto' gets organised and becomes a 'top' kingdom (achievement obtained) then they win the age and thats no longer good enough achievement because they are no longer classed as a 'ghetto'?

@ korp - we begged for cfs last age? I dont seem to remember this but maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy - funny how its on the other foot now.

I didn't say that kingdom accomplishments as a "top kingdom" were not good enough. I had said (In a separate place) that it is easy (Relatively) to have a top province when you have a top kingdom. Nine times out of ten, a top province will be in one of the top level kingdoms. However, if you read what I said, it is also not an accomplishment that I give a lot of credence to when a player in a ghetto is a top province. If you are give this some thought, you will be able to see my position: Individual accomplishments are secondary to team accomplishments. The best player is not necessarily the biggest player.

Additionally, I would like to state that building a "top kingdom" is more impressive when you build it from a core of players who STARTED in your kingdom, and not just by trading in all of the most skilled players you can and getting rid of the average players instead of teaching them to be better.

[titanwraith]

Exploring removes land from the pool, yes. Paradise "creates" land that never existed... Both show up on history under "Total Land Explored"...

EDIT:
I just realized that honor is the only thing in the game that can't be created out of nothing... I knew it, but never realized it's the ONLY thing in the game with that limitation...

Again you demonstrate your lack of utopian knowledge.
Attacks generate honour in war.

[Godly]

I guess I hit too close to the truth since all that comes from you now is bunch of jibberish :) Last age your kd (this assuming you still play in ZZ) begged my kd for cf over and over again until we were nice enough to give to you. But lets get back to your so called skills since you seem to avoid it so. All you have is one win that you brag about which isnt really great either, banks necessarly dont need to be skilled players either (we seen that with Proteus winning) so you dont really have that going for you since for all we know there was someone holding your hand all through the age. But okey, fair enough there could be some trace of skills in you, but then we have the fact that you are bragging about a crown when utopia have degenerated into some "easy mode" doesnt speak much for your skills either!

What you should do, even thou its easy mode utopia now days is to create a province in a ghetto, then win the crown, then you might be entitled to some bragging rights!

LOLZ

1) i did not bank in age 46. I explored to 10k and converted to attacker adn got the other 38k came from raping other so called "top players."

2) If you think it's easy to login every hour of your life for 1 months, and outplay other top players for 38k acrs to total 48k acres in 1 month, then win by 10k despite not playing the final month of the round (in vacation mode), then you are a fool. You would never even come close to doing that no matter what kingdom you play for. And it wouldn't have even been that close had Marcel not taken adv of the absalom gangbang and abuse bugs.

3) The aid argument is a joke. I took minimal aid and had a positive TB within the first week of the game. The only reason I take aid that round is because everyone else feed and GBP abuse. If you take out the aid system in utopia, I would dominate even harder.

4) Get on my level son

[Pestermenot]

Again you demonstrate your lack of utopian knowledge.
Attacks generate honour in war.

As I have never claimed to know everything Utopia ever, I can say I did not know this... I thought the honor "generated" came from your opponent, but I'm certain that's just my noobness showing through.

[DHaran]

Godly you're just a joke. A Utopian punchline, nothing more. VT2 and vines command more respect than you.

[Nobody]

Godly you're just a joke. A Utopian punchline, nothing more. VT2 and vines command more respect than you.

dude... that's BRUTAL.....


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@ godly
you were part of ZZ in age 46, therefor your entire statement about winning the land crown, yet not the NW crown, despite being 9k acres larger than the second place land province is kind of moot and not worth as much as you are claiming. Especially considering that no one else in your whole kingdom made it into the top 100 for that age.
no offense intended with this, I'm just speaking my mind here.

[Pestermenot]

ROFL! That was mean, just mean...

[MorbidAngel]

what's the current age?

[Pestermenot]

Age 50... or 4, not sure...

[Humanoize]

dude... that's BRUTAL.....


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@ godly
you were part of ZZ in age 46, therefor your entire statement about winning the land crown, yet not the NW crown, despite being 9k acres larger than the second place land province is kind of moot and not worth as much as you are claiming. Especially considering that no one else in your whole kingdom made it into the top 100 for that age.
no offense intended with this, I'm just speaking my mind here.

Please not the nw vs. land discussion again!

[titanwraith]

well the ranking archives don't really have anything relevant from before age 30...

[Korp]

LOLZ

1) i did not bank in age 46. I explored to 10k and converted to attacker adn got the other 38k came from raping other so called "top players."

2) If you think it's easy to login every hour of your life for 1 months, and outplay other top players for 38k acrs to total 48k acres in 1 month, then win by 10k despite not playing the final month of the round (in vacation mode), then you are a fool. You would never even come close to doing that no matter what kingdom you play for. And it wouldn't have even been that close had Marcel not taken adv of the absalom gangbang and abuse bugs.

3) The aid argument is a joke. I took minimal aid and had a positive TB within the first week of the game. The only reason I take aid that round is because everyone else feed and GBP abuse. If you take out the aid system in utopia, I would dominate even harder.

4) Get on my level son

See yet again you ignore better part of the post again and try to inflate your ego again. As said before if you only have one age to brag about its not much to hang in the tree son. So kiddo get back when you actually have something to brag about and worth bragging about instead of this lucky fluke you had one age it doesnt hold much weight you know :)

[Korp]

@ korp - we begged for cfs last age? I dont seem to remember this but maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy - funny how its on the other foot now.

Ofc you wouldnt remember, who would remember begging a ghetto for a cf cause the so called "top kd" were scared that the ghetto would hit them with their big provs! ;)