Quote Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
As I remember those events Elit didn't doublehostile Rage, Elit had legitimate conflict with Rage and BIO decided to go **** **** up for Rage because they had done something to BIO earlier that war. Elit then refused to halt hostilities with Rage because after all he wasn't the one who was interfering and couldn't let Rage take BIO to war and beat them. So Elit is not the one to blame there, BIO is but yes it was completely lame of BIO to interfere in that conflict.


You are correct of course, this isn't even remotely the most dirty stuff that's happened over the ages.
But it's still dirty and it's clear that Abs planned this all along, they knew Sanct's actions would elicit a response(if there hadn't been a 0 thief prov they would simply have done something else)
Sure it was incredibly stupid to have a 0 thief prov but anyone who thinks there won't be a reaction when the ally of someone just sending notice robs that prov is clearly not living in this world.

Except that they are. It was obvious Elit would stomp Havoc completely considering what they had just done to Sanct despite Sanct having the superior war setup in Abs.

If thats correct why did Elit agree to FW bio then? If they were not involved bio is that last kd elit would want to dw with even if he needed one to not get farmed. Going to FW with bio shows its coprdinated as it benefitted both kds. If you are trying to assert you are not coordinating with the 2nd party to a double hostile you would not do an action that directly benefits them. Furthermore when ASF asked elit to cf after double hostile, elit said he would need to "ask bio." Why would he need to ask someone to cf us thats part of a double on us if this situation is not coordinated. I have those logs.