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He basically entrapped us by making the coding change and not informing utopia

He doesn't have to inform anyone of anything.

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Every kingdom in utopia abuses mechanics. Do you inform Bishop when race X is OP? No. You pick it and own the server. Is it against the spirit of the rules of the game when you get GBP to feed a cow to be UB by 100% of utopia? Based on the very loose definition of spirit of the rules (i.e. whatever Bishop feels like today), YES. The INTENT of GBP is to protect beaten down provs, not exploit it purposely to grow cows. Yet, it's been done. It's never been actioned.

A lot of murderers never get caught and some that do, get away with it due to legal ****ups or what not or get small punishment. So does that make murder ok? Great reasoning that...

2 rounds ago we had a crown winner based on abusing of war mechanics. 3 rounds ago we had a crown winner based on abusing of war mechanics.

One could argue that last age's winner was also abusing exploration mechanics, but you cleverly let that one out eh?

Last round, a kingdom complained of people resetting their chained provs in war to have them come back after 24 hrs of protection in great shape. Bishop's response? Get people from outside to raze them.

I agree with you here, Godly. I would have voted for 25 province deletion.

Wake up, people. This isn't about abusing bugs. This is about Bishop's power trip. He's pissed off that he made a stupid change and people figured out how to break it. If you just want the noobs to play utopia who can't figure this stuff out, just say so. But last I counted, utopia is down to 20 kingdoms with 25 players. You may blame advertising. I blame you.

I blame people with bloated ego's that think they're smarter than 99% of the other players.

Current list of punishment for using a tactic that is not a bug abuse and therefore not cheating:
- The entire tactic foiled by a coding change not mentioned in the changelist: our provs arent in functioning state for 5 real days (24 hrs in initial protection + 24 hrs waiting since aid is now a hostile action + 72 hrs for protection on new provs). This should be punishment enough.

See above. Admin's can change the game whenever they want. Severity of punishment would depend on the mood of the judge/executioner on duty: Bishop. There is no Utopian Book of Punishment where it says what is "enough" punishment. I'd say that given the reputation of most players in CR, they could count as rolemodels for other kingdoms. Considering that, I would punish more severe because it would give the wrong idea to kingdoms that look up to CR. Also, abusing game mechanics or spirit of the game could be reason for deletion....

- All leaders who reset suspended for 72 hrs

That's harsh, but then again, he could have just deleted you.

- More military released than what was aided (military paid for with real cash).

Evidence exhibit A: you paid to build more military. This is in violation of the Spirit of the Rules.

- Still negative TB on the provs that got aided
- Total of 7 provs taken out of a war for a measly 8k soldiers

Why bother if it was for a measly 8k soldiers? Seems to me that you REALLY wanted those 8k soldiers. If you don't need them, why reset? Above you stated that you reset and bought more military....

- Loss of 2 reset credits purchased with real money that weren't used how we wanted them to be used. (This should be refunded).

Say what? You mis-spent credits? So, what if I set a sitter for 4 days and then decide oops...I didn't need it? Do I get a refund because they weren't used how I wanted them to be used? You made a choice to use them to buy more military, which is in violation of rules. Too bad, wrong choice.

Now, let's fight in-game! It's a close war still and many compliments to CR for this!