1. get your numbers right
2. there were several other kingdoms taking science, and it was from a prov that was going to be razed killed within a few hours. whoever asked us whether they could learn, we said yes.
3. so threatening is something wrong now and needs to be actioned? then CR threatened to hit AMA if AMA dodged CR, and it was mentioned in public by many of your kingdom mates. in addition, get your ethics right. So did i apologise for it after it? yes i did so openly. Did you guy ever apologise for threatening? no you didnt. did pyro cancel drake after smashing simians in a war? yes we did out of good faith, but Simians decided not to.
4. you said in the sc2 game that you guys discovered something real sick and there's a possibility of being actioned for it. maybe i should re-watch the stream i recorded and post it?
5. i clearly intentionally didnt type hawk's name, as I still respect him while referencing him as the admin of absnet. I even said thanks for hosting us while we will be moving on. There are other leaders (whom I wont name, except for flogger as he has publicly said), that told me that ABSnet can be spied on. Did I conclusively say that CR spied on us? No I didnt. Did I say we'll be taking precautions and moving out? Yes I did.
If you really want to make this into a flaming thread about past history, should I list down some of the dirty stuff CR did last age which was never publicly revealed? Such as dealbreaking Legacy twice during the age? Such as planning to wave pyro early-mid age and deal break us? What about CR was the 2nd kingdom to hit Fratzia (after Pyros hit them), and doubling hostile them.. and then took all the good gains and walked away when 1 of your leaders said that we will work out a 3 way hostile? Nope you didnt do that, you just decided to let Fratz slow us down.
How about 2 ages ago, you were supposed to war us (after Pyro-ED) and we arranged acres cap + kingdom land structure for both kingdoms.. But you guys were afraid to war then and explored Mango past the size that you all mentioned you would do so (after you guys were being LD by EJ).
How about Pyros should be angry because you all publicly flamed some kingdom members of Pyros + Pyros + myself in IRC after being actioned? I still respect some members of CR such as munk, zauper and a few others as they either dont publicly display their hatred against Pyro (for this admin action) or they probably know that Pyro did nothing wrong by reporting it. However, some of your guys just go on massive QQ and blaming others before looking at the mirror.
Every war that CR is in, there's massive QQ threads. When was the last time that CR experienced a non-qq war?
You guys have the most experienced roster in Utopia and should be showing a good example to the community on how to act in the game.
It is such a pity that because of all these issues, looks like some friendships bridges would probably need to be burnt. Always had fun talking to Nick_Mi + Hawk on IRC.
-cJ