Proposal to end he Awar

[tetley]

Who is judge?

[Judge]

Outcome of the 1v1 counflict would be completelly irrelevant, it would still serve as incentive to repeat ****play next time.

So as u are saying, if the 10 kingdoms who are currently hitting into war n eowcf right now will all not be actioned, it will serve as an incentive to repeat the ****play next time?

[Judge]

Who is judge?

Just someone who has asked flogger a question and he doesnt wanna answer it :(

[citadela01]

So as u are saying, if the 10 kingdoms who are currently hitting into war n eowcf right now will all not be actioned, it will serve as an incentive to repeat the ****play next time?

You can not ask of us to adhere to codex of rules whose trangression is the cause of action against you.
Well you can but nobody will give a **** about it.
Id say its pretty obvious that moment allout fight broke out any and all rules of fair play and utopian customs went down the drain.

Once the dust settles down they will be reinstated and things will go back to normal.

[Verminator]

Once the dust settles down they will be reinstated and things will go back to normal.

hahaha... if you think normal will ever be anything better than this again, you're fooling yourself ;) This grudge will be back next age and the age after that and the age after that... eventually causing the same ****storm each age.

[Judge]

You can not ask of us to adhere to codex of rules whose trangression is the cause of action against you.
Well you can but nobody will give a **** about it.
Id say its pretty obvious that moment allout fight broke out any and all rules of fair play and utopian customs went down the drain.

Once the dust settles down they will be reinstated and things will go back to normal.

If one person does a rape, its called rape! If 10 people do it, its still called rape!! Stop showing us your double standards!!

[flogger]

Just someone who has asked flogger a question and he doesnt wanna answer it :(

Sorry, busy killing your allies cause your leaders are too stubborn to have just bitten the bullet a week ago. What was the question?

[Aranfein]

Judge your right but your analogy is wrong...

A rape is a rape no matter how many does it, however the 1 that steps in and deem the offense to be executional, is not charged with murder like everyone else, he has to right to execute the sentence without being trialed as a murdere..

[citadela01]

If one person does a rape, its called rape! If 10 people do it, its still called rape!! Stop showing us your double standards!!

Double standards ?
Rules and customs you are talking about are not laws, we are not commiting a crime against nature here.
Only rules we must adhere to are the ones enforced gy game support.
Customs you talk about have developed over time to ensure fair playing field and fair 1v1 fight for people playing this game.
Moment this all erupted those customs arent worth ****.

[Aranfein]

If your kingdom signs up to take part in the awar, rules and cf's usually are removed and reinstated after, its one of the "perks" of joining into something like that, but also 1 of the reasons i wish to stay out like a few others..

A deal should have been reached ages ago and at the very atleast negotiations should be coming to a close by now, but with 2 stubborn leaders that both says they are correct (they both are to some extend), unfortunately as everyone can see its divided the waters and im sure these things will continue into next age if not resolved..

If i was Emeriti i would pull out of the growth race and say "ok we take it on next age" then they just need to convince all the other parties of moving on. (Before Emeriti players/Allies say "why should we"), You are losing and i doubt very much BB's side will stop when you didnt agree to a deal in the first place, I must say its remarkable how quick Emeriti has managed to grow back, now if anyone can donate my KD about 60k acres, i will happily sit at the top and say whos right and whos wrong while knocking people down that attempts to grow over a certain size :p

[MyNameIsMatija]

If your kingdom signs up to take part in the awar, rules and cf's usually are removed and reinstated after, its one of the "perks" of joining into something like that, but also 1 of the reasons i wish to stay out like a few others..

A deal should have been reached ages ago and at the very atleast negotiations should be coming to a close by now, but with 2 stubborn leaders that both says they are correct (they both are to some extend), unfortunately as everyone can see its divided the waters and im sure these things will continue into next age if not resolved..

If i was Emeriti i would pull out of the growth race and say "ok we take it on next age" then they just need to convince all the other parties of moving on. (Before Emeriti players/Allies say "why should we"), You are losing and i doubt very much BB's side will stop when you didnt agree to a deal in the first place, I must say its remarkable how quick Emeriti has managed to grow back, now if anyone can donate my KD about 60k acres, i will happily sit at the top and say whos right and whos wrong while knocking people down that attempts to grow over a certain size :p

It's funny, they were obviously never in this situation before, I don't think they know how to do that. They respawned as dwarf/sage from what I can tell.

[Sheister]

flogger, citadela01, I repeat those facts because most of the arguments coming from your side are based off ignoring those facts....

Whereas you refuse to meet any objective threshold for your own arguments, several of which are fundamental to argumentation and have been pointed out, linked, described in detail and pointed out to you in numerous posts.

.... and don't hold any water in light of the facts.

Again, you need to distinguish between facts and conclusory statements.

Your side conveniently tries to ignore or even lie about these facts since most all of your points fall apart when they are considered.

Your allegations have been denied. It is your job to establish them as facts before they MUST be reconciled with the actions of BB.

If people claim we didn't offer reasonable reparations to whatever BB needed, then I'll repeat the fact that we did.

Conclusory statements are not facts.

If people claim that bour was out to "FSU" bb, then I will point out how he tried to cf before any hits and offered all land plus extra free land back at the time he did hit and offered extras to ensure BB wasn't hurt if he could just get his cf.

After they had lost time use of land, after their pump was interrupted, after the real damage had been done, then he made an offer which you aver is full reparations but have yet to demonstrate were in fact full reparations and still do not go to the question of future deterrence. Moreover such damages do not account for the aggravating factor of the conspiracy which is established conclusively by the logs, unlike most of the statements you make which have no objective support,,but instend rely upon the reader inferring an intent of Bour which is at odds with the conduct he demonstrated before.

You have presented nothing but conclusory statements that you forcefully insist are facts, but forceful insistence is NOT necessarily credible evidence and is NOT fact.

[Sheister]

K. Just confirming that Emeriti was getting gangbanged for something other kingdoms did.

No emeriti is getting gangbanged for initiating a conspiracy in which other kingdoms were the operative actors but emeriti was the origin of the action.

[Sheister]

(btw, there's mountains of evidence that BB's main ally is dirty to the core. Seems they dont mind turning a blind eye to all that though. Odd...)

None of which evidence is relevant to the issue at hand here as discussed earlier.

#1 it does not bear on emeriti's guilt.

#2 the prior actions were punished by either the game staff, so the punishment is beyond review of the players or was determined to be insignificant and prosecution was waived, thus again, having no bearing on the current actions.

Will emeriti people please use basic logic to argue relavant points and please learn the difference between facts, conclusory statements, and allegations.

[AquaSeaFoam]

Whereas you refuse to meet any objective threshold for your own arguments, several of which are fundamental to argumentation and have been pointed out, linked, described in detail and pointed out to you in numerous posts.

Again, you need to distinguish between facts and conclusory statements.

Your allegations have been denied. It is your job to establish them as facts before they MUST be reconciled with the actions of BB.
Conclusory statements are not facts.

I don't even know what you're referring to regarding your first statement there. I was just (correctly) accused of posting the same things over and over. These things I'm posting over and over are the facts of the situation that your side hates to be known because it makes what you did look really inexcusable. When the full facts are shown, the lies your side has been trying to make people believe no longer make any sense.

The statements flogger and I were talking about are FACTS. Just because flogger tried denying them before the screenshots came out doesn't mean they aren't facts. Flogger denying a fact and then being shown to be a liar by proof does not make the fact turn into a conclusory statement. The facts I state have been proven to be true with real evidence. If you and your side are "right", why does your side need to keep lying about and trying to discredit the truth? On the other hand, I admit where our side has been wrong but stand up against the other false accusations and lies by posting facts.

After they had lost time use of land, after their pump was interrupted, after the real damage had been done..

Bour offered all land back plus extra free land from the time he first razed. This was before any pump was interrupted and before any real damage had been done. This is a FACT. Why do you try so hard to lie about it?