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    I think sheister makes some good points about the purposes of punishment. The law often does more than merely put a person back to the way they were before they were harmed. If you get punched in the face, you can receive damages for battery but the offender will probably suffer some criminal sanction as well, because the government wants to deter from doing it again and send a message to society that it's the wrong thing to do. It's not just about the tangibles.

    I think it's also valuable to consider something that prot said back in the original thread flog started:
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    Also, declining that offer was more of a principle thing. Do you really want this to happen to you in the future? By allowing this crap you set a precedent for the future.
    I agree. It seems fairly nonsensical that razing into EOWCF to force a CF is acceptable as long as you offer 1.5x land and gold as restitution afterwards. The victims are entitled to make a statement that this kind of play is not going to be tolerated, by punishing the people who are just as morally responsible as Bour...


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    sheister, you're boring...

    Who made you the mouthpiece of Pyro anyway? Can we have digie back pls? He might be a whack-a-doo but hes at least entertaining. If the right person had discovered that guy, he coulda been a reality show supastah, just like Honey Boo Boo

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    Agreed.
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    So because sheister makes so much sense hes now boring?

    Tsk, tsk.

    Maybe you should concentrate on your failing AWAR instead of insulting others, unless of course that's all you have left. Shame.

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    digie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetley View Post
    I think sheister makes some good points about the purposes of punishment. The law often does more than merely put a person back to the way they were before they were harmed. If you get punched in the face, you can receive damages for battery but the offender will probably suffer some criminal sanction as well, because the government wants to deter from doing it again and send a message to society that it's the wrong thing to do. It's not just about the tangibles.

    I think it's also valuable to consider something that prot said back in the original thread flog started:

    I agree. It seems fairly nonsensical that razing into EOWCF to force a CF is acceptable as long as you offer 1.5x land and gold as restitution afterwards. The victims are entitled to make a statement that this kind of play is not going to be tolerated, by punishing the people who are just as morally responsible as Bour...
    I find it quite amusing that the people that are using the real life's law as an analogy are the same people that are saying that the "victims" gets to decide who's guilty and what kind of punishment other people deserve. You guys should get to know how the justice system works. PS I suggest you start using more modern references than the Islamic Law about stealers.

    Also the agreed deal was not 1.5x, it was ~3. AND it was agreed by BB.
    Last edited by DoOrDie; 22-06-2015 at 04:42.

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    It's just an analogy, like you say bro. All analogies are imperfect. There's no government to provide justice in this instance. People gotta take it upon themselves. There's bound to be a disagreement regarding what punishment is deserved. And it's not just BB who are trying to send a message anyways - lots of people took their side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tetley View Post
    It's just an analogy, like you say bro. All analogies are imperfect. There's no government to provide justice in this instance. People gotta take it upon themselves. There's bound to be a disagreement regarding what punishment is deserved. And it's not just BB who are trying to send a message anyways - lots of people took their side.
    Yeah, maybe it's time to stop using a bad analogy and start using a more accurate one. Here are some suggestions:

    Mob's lynching
    Stoning
    Lapidation
    Witchhunt
    The Inquisition
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    Careful now. Taylor just finished law school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lampost View Post
    OMG pyro confirmed cheaters. Thats fine, BB who are supposedly the ethical kd have no problem aligning with those dirty cheats.
    Please quote me where I say "cheating is fine" or anything along those lines.
    Pyro had a cheater in their roster, who got caught and to my knowledge no longer plays there. If Pyro for some reason reinvited the person, you'd have a point.

    Please tell me, how do you 100% eliminate the possibility of having a cheater in your kingdom? You cannot. You could never, you can't never and you never will be able to. Now get over it. Lets stop making whole kingdoms responsible for single cheaters.

    Quote Originally Posted by lampost View Post
    Emeriti, do something small and perhaps serious but go to great lengths to repair the damages. Suddenly its fair to DEAL-BREAK and GANG-BANG them.
    Stealing is stealing no matter if it's $10 or $10.000.000
    Despite what ASF keeps telling you, this was never about land.

    Quote Originally Posted by lampost View Post
    This is the blatant dis-proportionality to the whole thing, not to mention the hypocrisy of aligning with last ages CONFIRMED cheaters.
    The hypocrisy is you calling out us siding with a kingdom who had a cheater removed while you support a kingdom who has a known multi in their kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protector View Post
    Please quote me where I say "cheating is fine" or anything along those lines.
    Pyro had a cheater in their roster, who got caught and to my knowledge no longer plays there. If Pyro for some reason reinvited the person, you'd have a point.

    Please tell me, how do you 100% eliminate the possibility of having a cheater in your kingdom? You cannot. You could never, you can't never and you never will be able to. Now get over it. Lets stop making whole kingdoms responsible for single cheaters.


    Stealing is stealing no matter if it's $10 or $10.000.000
    Despite what ASF keeps telling you, this was never about land.


    The hypocrisy is you calling out us siding with a kingdom who had a cheater removed while you support a kingdom who has a known multi in their kingdom.
    Pyro cheated in the war against us last age where they stole money from CJ to fund their dragons!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Pyro cheated in the war against us last age where they stole money from CJ to fund their dragons!
    I afraid you are wrong. They didnt cheat nor steal.
    From their earlier post in another thread regarding this issue,
    Pyro borrowed the money and CJ is willing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feint View Post
    I afraid you are wrong. They didnt cheat nor steal.
    From their earlier post in another thread regarding this issue,
    Pyro borrowed the money and CJ is willing.
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    cant believe you guys spend so much time typing out all these lengthy posts on such a joke game.

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