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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Sheister, I don't think I brought up Pyro's multi farm war once since the admins caught you and punished you. I have brought up how Pyro's co-monarch the age before waved Emeriti early last age from below declare range to "FSU" them. Emeriti was not offered any land back and there were no "punishments". That same friend kingdom then farmed Pyro 2.5 dragons worth of gc into their active hostile with Emeriti. Those things were never punished and Emeriti never made forum drama over them. Certainly both of those things were more damaging than bour razing and offering all land plus more back for a cf.
    ASF, I'll clarify once more and for the last time what went down there last age.

    You hit CJ's KD, they hit you back for more, and even gave you a button. You tried to NW drop, but you failed to do so. And in the end you had to agree to CF.

    He then waved Simians and gave button too, but this time Simians succeeded in the NW drop and declared.

    Considering you had less land (and hence less starting Nw) than Simians, and you were a dwarf heavy core who could drop builds much more cheaply and easily, compared to Simians, you failed at your attempt to push the button. Now dont go shifting your failure elsewhere. You got outplayed by CJ, Simians wasn't. Its as simple as that.

    Lastly, regarding the sum, it was 2.5 million, not 2.5 dragons worth, please verify your facts. Emeriti took a gold drake from us at notice expiry, and you slayed that about 12-18h into the staredown, and was drake-free all the way for like 72h of hostile. Then took one sapphire when war started, and nothing else. It was 2.5 million to finish the funding of the final sapphire before war commenced. And as Sheister has already clarified, that was down to your bullsh!t wordplay in your CF discussions.

    I'll release in a bit the logs between Leshrak and me regarding the CF discussion when I'm more free at work, but here's a sneak preview and my question to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Leshrak initially did plan to agree to extend, but when he discussed the proposal with his council, they were against the extension.
    So am I right to infer that Leshrak was active enough during this period, planned to agree to extend, brought the idea up to council, but was refuted by council since council was happy to capitalise on the fact that we on our end believed we had a Yr 5 minimum if not Yr 6 deal, yet you all along with your council planned to jump us with a naked 72h notice deal, hence the refusal for finalising the deal? And that after that, Leshrak decided not to communicate that to me because his proposal to extend CF with us was refuted, rather than him being less active due to work and wife?

    Which is it, ASF? Because you're saying you consciously refused to extend after Leshrak brought the idea forth, while Leshrak apologised to me for being less active and not replying my diplo. Edit/add-on: The former does seem a lot more logical and reasonable given the prep. Why else would your cows be drafted 40k soldiers ahead of us and stocked 1.5-2k gcpa on notice date? That's pretty douchey no?

    [22:52] <leshrak> yeah so this could have been handled better
    [22:52] <leshrak> and for that i'm sorry :\
    ...
    [22:59] <leshrak> and yeah, you did kind of get screwed, and i'm sorry for that. i'm having problems and getting in trouble at work and with my wife for being on uto too long
    [22:59] <leshrak> so i've not been reliable

    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Nesta, you've been reasonable whenever we've talked, but there are key times when days go by without being able to find you or contact you. Maybe it's not intentional, I don't know for sure. I know you haven't been around to talk to much when you've been doing this gb and I've messaged you and never got replies.
    I might have been at a casino, or off the island for a casino cruise trip. I've taken a lot of those trips during that age I not-so-fondly remember.
    Oh and I would admit I may have been guilty of stalling before, but never ever on one occasion against you or any Emeriti member.
    Last edited by 13nesta13; 23-06-2015 at 02:35.
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