Proposal to end he Awar

[tak3shi]

ASF, I'll clarify once more and for the last time what went down there last age.

You hit CJ's KD, they hit you back for more, and even gave you a button. You tried to NW drop, but you failed to do so. And in the end you had to agree to CF.

He then waved Simians and gave button too, but this time Simians succeeded in the NW drop and declared.

Considering you had less land (and hence less starting Nw) than Simians, and you were a dwarf heavy core who could drop builds much more cheaply and easily, compared to Simians, you failed at your attempt to push the button. Now dont go shifting your failure elsewhere. You got outplayed by CJ, Simians wasn't. Its as simple as that.

Lastly, regarding the sum, it was 2.5 million, not 2.5 dragons worth, please verify your facts. Emeriti took a gold drake from us at notice expiry, and you slayed that about 12-18h into the staredown, and was drake-free all the way for like 72h of hostile. Then took one sapphire when war started, and nothing else. It was 2.5 million to finish the funding of the final sapphire before war commenced. And as Sheister has already clarified, that was down to your bullsh!t wordplay in your CF discussions.

I'll release in a bit the logs between Leshrak and me regarding the CF discussion when I'm more free at work, but here's a sneak preview and my question to you.



So am I right to infer that Leshrak was active enough during this period, planned to agree to extend, brought the idea up to council, but was refuted by council since council was happy to capitalise on the fact that we on our end believed we had a Yr 5 minimum if not Yr 6 deal, yet you all along with your council planned to jump us with a naked 72h notice deal, hence the refusal for finalising the deal? And that after that, Leshrak decided not to communicate that to me because his proposal to extend CF with us was refuted, rather than him being less active due to work and wife?

Which is it, ASF? Because you're saying you consciously refused to extend after Leshrak brought the idea forth, while Leshrak apologised to me for being less active and not replying my diplo. Edit/add-on: The former does seem a lot more logical and reasonable given the prep. Why else would your cows be drafted 40k soldiers ahead of us and stocked 1.5-2k gcpa on notice date? That's pretty douchey no?

[22:52] <leshrak> yeah so this could have been handled better
[22:52] <leshrak> and for that i'm sorry :\
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[22:59] <leshrak> and yeah, you did kind of get screwed, and i'm sorry for that. i'm having problems and getting in trouble at work and with my wife for being on uto too long
[22:59] <leshrak> so i've not been reliable



I might have been at a casino, or off the island for a casino cruise trip. I've taken a lot of those trips during that age I not-so-fondly remember.
Oh and I would admit I may have been guilty of stalling before, but never ever on one occasion against you or any Emeriti member.

Bla bla excuses, sends ally kd after opponents kd, gets fed gc and still loses miserably. Scummiest kd for the past 20 ages, no one believes your wall of text lies. Intent of intentionally stealing 100k, 10m or 100m it's the same isn't it, since you're going with intent to raze even if it was just one raze for 300 acres and razing in excess of 50k in return.

Worst hypocrite ever, scummiest kd ever, trying to action dirty play it's like we've let out the world's worst criminals to be policeman and judge now, ROFL. What a joke.

Your once partner in crime has exposed all your **** and lies and you still try to hide? You should have tried when he first exposed it and you kept quiet! Now it's too late, scum!

[Feint]

Takashi playing in which kingdom? Why so hot?

[tak3shi]

Takashi playing in which kingdom? Why so hot?

I've retired for a long while lol, not been "playing". It's consistent I've flamed Anri, Drixx, Proteus, Debauchery, Swea, and many others for their dirty plays in the past. Pyro is the dirtiest of the lot so they deserve to be grilled for what they are especially since they got the cheek to police others when they should imprison themselves and throw away the key.

[Korp]

Bla bla excuses, sends ally kd after opponents kd, gets fed gc and still loses miserably. Scummiest kd for the past 20 ages, no one believes your wall of text lies. Intent of intentionally stealing 100k, 10m or 100m it's the same isn't it, since you're going with intent to raze even if it was just one raze for 300 acres and razing in excess of 50k in return.

Worst hypocrite ever, scummiest kd ever, trying to action dirty play it's like we've let out the world's worst criminals to be policeman and judge now, ROFL. What a joke.

Your once partner in crime has exposed all your **** and lies and you still try to hide? You should have tried when he first exposed it and you kept quiet! Now it's too late, scum!

Since you have a history of trying to bash Pyro every chance you get your opinions are rather worthless. Especially someone that played in one of the actual dirtiest alliances in Utopia ;)

[MyNameIsMatija]

I clearly don't understand the mentality of the players joining in on the gangbang. By all means keep passing this wisdom along that makes BB's allies look in fact not like white knights who are defending the ethics of the game, but rather what they really are, rodents picking at a enemy they wouldn't have stood a chance against without a major gangbang.

You can't beat them 1v1 because it will never be 1v1, see how many KDs jumped to help them even though they were the ones in the wrong, imagine picking a fight without a reason like razing into eowcf, not happening.

Fire with fire my friend.

[tak3shi]

Since you have a history of trying to bash Pyro every chance you get your opinions are rather worthless. Especially someone that played in one of the actual dirtiest alliances in Utopia ;)

Bla bla bla, you're part of those who played in the shadiest kd's in recent ages, dealbroke and hit into war. You scumbag, your words are worth less than thrash you should join pyro and their gang.

The entire time i've played and lead I've always been honourable, my dealings have been honourable and I've kept my word a 100%. I know you're envious of it that's why you try to bring old alliance **** that I've never been involved with, sorry I can't drop to your scummy level bro. You've to settle with pyro and gang, waddling in that ****.

[Anri]

lol Anri, if you're going to condescend to someone I would suggest first making sure that the person isn't being sarcastic towards you. If the sarcasm wasn't clear by the giant Nic Cage meme, I'll make it more clear (all the following posts were posted in this exact thread, usually being argued against saying that Emeriti is getting gangbanged because of their actions this age)


Fair enough, i did not pay attention until Nesta got my interest with his huge post.



















I clearly don't understand the mentality of the players joining in on the gangbang. By all means keep passing this wisdom along that makes BB's allies look in fact not like white knights who are defending the ethics of the game, but rather what they really are, rodents picking at a enemy they wouldn't have stood a chance against without a major gangbang.

I dont agree at all. KDs are not rodents because they stand up vs bull**** Emeriti pulls.

[Korp]

Bla bla bla, you're part of those who played in the shadiest kd's in recent ages, dealbroke and hit into war. You scumbag, your words are worth less than thrash you should join pyro and their gang.

The entire time i've played and lead I've always been honourable, my dealings have been honourable and I've kept my word a 100%. I know you're envious of it that's why you try to bring old alliance **** that I've never been involved with, sorry I can't drop to your scummy level bro. You've to settle with pyro and gang, waddling in that ****.

Yet again, when you talk about yourself its only you, but when you talk about everyone in the kingdom. Its so patethic :) But, point what I personally have done that is scummy please.

[tak3shi]

Yet again, when you talk about yourself its only you, but when you talk about everyone in the kingdom. Its so patethic :) But, point what I personally have done that is scummy please.

You're pathetic, I'm talking about the kd i've played in being clean for the most part if not one of the cleanest and nicest kds around when I'm playing in it. While you played in a dirty scumbag kd supporting their actions publicly of dealbreaking and hitting into wars, giving all sorts of lame excuses. While you try to include an entire alliance which was what mostly 2kds and not an alliance at all when I played in it compared to actual kd's you and your fellow scums played in? Is there even a comparison, really? LOL. Stop being so pathetic, you're a waste of space, time, breath and life.

[Heiney]

You're pathetic, I'm talking about the kd i've played in being clean for the most part if not one of the cleanest and nicest kds around when I'm playing in it. While you played in a dirty scumbag kd supporting their actions publicly of dealbreaking and hitting into wars, giving all sorts of lame excuses. While you try to include an entire alliance which was what mostly 2kds and not an alliance at all when I played in it compared to actual kd's you and your fellow scums played in? Is there even a comparison, really? LOL. Stop being so pathetic, you're a waste of space, time, breath and life.

Why so much hate for someone not playing and go round personal insulting people. This is just personal.

[vendetta]

Well, I must say that reaching out to protector is hard when I'm asking him what's a good dutch pr0n.

[Korp]

You're pathetic, I'm talking about the kd i've played in being clean for the most part if not one of the cleanest and nicest kds around when I'm playing in it. While you played in a dirty scumbag kd supporting their actions publicly of dealbreaking and hitting into wars, giving all sorts of lame excuses. While you try to include an entire alliance which was what mostly 2kds and not an alliance at all when I played in it compared to actual kd's you and your fellow scums played in? Is there even a comparison, really? LOL. Stop being so pathetic, you're a waste of space, time, breath and life.

So, you mean as long as its clean when you played there its okey? lol, its okey to disregard all the previous **** just cause it didnt happend while you were there? As usual, you dont know how to behave either its rather sad seeing what I assume an adult person spending so much time on a internet forum trying to "insult" other people. Its just a game after all :)

[bombdigie]

You're pathetic, I'm talking about the kd i've played in being clean for the most part if not one of the cleanest and nicest kds around when I'm playing in it. While you played in a dirty scumbag kd supporting their actions publicly of dealbreaking and hitting into wars, giving all sorts of lame excuses. While you try to include an entire alliance which was what mostly 2kds and not an alliance at all when I played in it compared to actual kd's you and your fellow scums played in? Is there even a comparison, really? LOL. Stop being so pathetic, you're a waste of space, time, breath and life.

[Palem]

Banned.

No personal insults please.

[13nesta13]

WHY would we redo a new CF to your KD when you were told to be one of the biggest threats against our KD and we had a CF ending in a week, one that allowed us to eat your KD up and spit it out. We ONLY gave you a CF to this point in time because we wanted to eat you. There was nothing more to talk about once we had given you the chance to grow for 4 weeks to become a juicy target. Why would we be mad at Nesta? Pyro was never a concern to us last age and they were not in our target zone until maybe late age. We knew what battles we had infront of us and how we would win them and in what time frame we could win them. From your KD to pewpew and everyone else. We were very strict about our CFs and knew everyone else CF in the top, we knew you could not dodge us, but still you did. Either way, we did let it go, i am just saying that all these things adds up eventually. If pissing people off is a sport i might be good at it, but you been better.

Anri,

Are you also mad at Nesta for trying to set up a cf so either of our kds could dodge you? or are you only angry with us because we actually dodged you? Nevermind the fact that you were 40% larger than us, and you refused to extend cf with us numerous times that whole week by (guess what) stalling/ignoring our messages.

Leshrak, I dont think you get the relevance of this whole issue. Simian/Anri's rage is with your statement that you deliberately made them train up because you're on the belief that if you're trying to fight someone while being larger, you should be prepared that the other KD would dodge you and yourself having trained up for nothing and lose your kd stocks.

My newfound rage is with your purposeful stalling, which I think now I'm entitled to conclude based on what ASF and Judge has posted?

Here again you gave notice, Emeriti just used the unclosed deal that leshrak and nesta never closed to dodge(right word maybe?) So technically both should be blamed for never closing the deal. Not just one. You cannot clap with one hand!

You nor ASF have yet to clarify my query; were you busy at work and RL, and not utopia-ing at that period, and hence did not reply my IRC messages or in-game mails, or was it like ASF said, that you knew the decision was passed across council that you wouldnt extend, and you chose not to even give me the basic courtesy and respect of PMing "hey sorry but our council decided we're not extending"
You went MIA and waited till you stocked 1.5k gcpa average per cow (and I believe core too), drafted your cows 40k soldiers ahead of us, then delivered the notice.

Now had I been in a position where I preferred to fight someone else my size and I know Simians might be eyeing me as a fight, I would have talked to them and told them not to draft up because we're not fighting them. That's the main difference here handling this issue between you and me, and that's what is central to Anri's rage.

And I'm not just talking cheap here; I back it up in game. Simians wanted to fight me Year 7, and I told them to back off because I had plans to hostile divinity. And they did. I was upfront and straightforward to them, and I told them as clearly and as thoroughly as I could, every possible scenario post-Divinity hostile, win, lose or draw, on how we could resolve our CF after. And all that was left was for me to honour my words like a man, which I did. I could have delayed and ****played Simians by claiming I was still in the extended hostile with Divinity and they shouldnt get to take my land, but I did not do that.