mysterious case of the missing pyro

[Chrystal Palace]

So you saying pyro can't gain acres in war with 2 cows and a core prov defecting? You are saying you had 100% solid proof before you gb emeriti? You saying we db? What exactly are you saying? That we shouldn't have defected and farmed out to your ally? Please flogger explain how feyr play works so next time we can stick to the guidelines.

[citadela01]

So, chrystal's evidence is, he got a message from a ghetto monarch, who he does not know providing info he has no proof off. Then with no investigation he defects three of his cows to OOW raze.....

I am still waiting for chrystal to produce something logical.....

Fixed it for you,

[flogger]

Gets farmout from Chystal: brags about winning.... so impressive, such skillz.

[flogger]

So you saying pyro can't gain acres in war with 2 cows and a core prov defecting? You are saying you had 100% solid proof before you gb emeriti? You saying we db? What exactly are you saying? That we shouldn't have defected and farmed out to your ally? Please flogger explain how feyr play works so next time we can stick to the guidelines.

u can only raze into kds wars if their own kd council thinks they're lame and gives u council logs for proof, duh.

[Sheister]

Fixed it for you,

Oh, good point. The monarch himself had no proof, he was guessing where that province would go to. Again, SN us, no one has joined since January. I am not aware of any incomming recruits. That in itself does not say much because, as I said, I can't stand trying to follow the rambling whatsapp conversation that seems to be our main communication now, but I don't think we are expecting anyone.

So now, I am waiting for our forum logs and I am waiting for chat boxes..... Chrystal, produce something that tells me you are logical please.

[Korp]

You mean when a FSU kingdom with ex-bb players in it razed Emeriti's cows while they were sitting on low defense and then they got outplayed by Emeriti 1v1?

The player pool is so small by now so most players played in most places. But I find it funny coming from a ex Emeriti member razing BB. :) "Outplayed" Must been hard to outplay such a kingdom, wow much skills.

You mean being bigger than the rest of the server with bigger cows as dw/sages and about to farmout fPyro (again)? Yeah, that looks like a kingdom that had no chance

Early game still doesnt mean ****, end game matters. :) Neither did i mention didnt have a chance. Just saying that you hype up Emeriti too much :)

That age, Emeriti had 7 TMs while BB had 2. If you wanna judge the result of that ~52h war where the loser got a wd wave and still ended up with less acres than Emeriti, then I'm afraid I can't do anything for you.

I wasnt hte one throwing around "Owning" "farming" "outplaying" It was you and ASF, now you make up excuses for Emeriti not doing the things you claimed? Maybe you should yap less and think more next time?

[Chrystal Palace]

Oh I see. So then pyro doubling up on ED was allowed. I mean the way i see it its still one kingdom hitting pyro. There hasn't been more provs added. Maybe nesta should have responded to me telling him I would give him acres back because I felt bad. Maybe pyro shouldn't be cheaters and not be able to have the benefit of the doubt.

[AquaSeaFoam]

I have found the fight summary from this "owning" or "farming" emeriti did 2 ages back!

From the same old thread right after it was posted.

Note while the summary shows us up 1k, I think emerti had about a 2-2.5k acres from LL, so I think we dropped 1k. I felt pretty badly that I dropped the ball when it was time to prepare, but I didn't want to farmout so just never slept to keep it as close as we did.

Yes, you managed to withdraw early before completely farming out by staying up all war. When you wd, you had no chance at all to win and staying in war any longer would have resulted in farming for Emeriti. Emeriti still got a great redistribution of their land towards their top half and the war positioned them to stay in a strong #2 position with no further wars until late age. Of course Pyro got an epic farming from Shinra to put them solidly in #1.

[flogger]

so to confirm, losing 1k acres and you gaining 1k acres in a war longer than min-time (I think it was like 3-4days) was us getting "Farmed" and "owned"

[Sheister]

Oh I see. So then pyro doubling up on ED was allowed. I mean the way i see it its still one kingdom hitting pyro. There hasn't been more provs added. Maybe nesta should have responded to me telling him I would give him acres back because I felt bad. Maybe pyro shouldn't be cheaters and not be able to have the benefit of the doubt.

Wait, now this is nesta's fault for not responding to an offer to give us back acres? How does that make sense?

Chrystal, evidence.... focus man. FOCUS.

[AquaSeaFoam]

How'd did you welcome the challenge this age? When you asked us for yr10 CF the first week of the age or when ya chose again to go to the easy route and fight pyro instead of us YR4?

Of course a sage kd would take a YR10 cf with a cleric kingdom if agreed. Emeriti was ready and planning to fight you after your post war, but it was you who decided against that and decided you instead needed to "kill" the #1 prov and make a bunch of drama rather than just take back the 380acres + free land from him and give him a cf.

Why would Emeriti warring your ally in YR3 stop them from warring you after in YR4? You could have sat stocking gc and pumping sci the whole time then fought Emeriti after their Pyro war before they could fully restock. Obviously it was BB that didn't want that so instead chose to deal break and wave Emeriti into their war.

[Korp]

Of course a sage kd would take a YR10 cf with a cleric kingdom if agreed. Emeriti was ready and planning to fight you after your post war, but it was you who decided against that and decided you instead needed to "kill" the #1 prov and make a bunch of drama rather than just take back the 380acres + free land from him and give him a cf.

Why would Emeriti warring your ally in YR3 stop them from warring you after in YR4? You could have sat stocking gc and pumping sci the whole time then fought Emeriti after their Pyro war before they could fully restock. Obviously it was BB that didn't want that so instead chose to deal break and wave Emeriti into their war.

I dont think you should talk about drama ASF, Mister "You must kick out all the sonata players in your kd!!!!11!!" :)

[flogger]

actually not of course a sage kd that's #1 should take a yr10 CF with the #2 kd when everyone 3 and lower is half our size. That means both of us just spend the rest of the age relentlessly bottom feeding the rest of the server for 10 weeks trying to out-do eachother. that's why everyone hated abs, because you'd do that instead of fight eachother.

Of course we needed to kill the #1 province, he hit in our end of war.

[DoOrDie]

so to confirm, losing 1k acres and you gaining 1k acres in a war longer than min-time (I think it was like 3-4days) was us getting "Farmed" and "owned"

It was around 52h long.

Also:

Since razes in war aren't aren't destroying acres but just land, the pre-war razes aren't accounted for so the summary should be -252 for ASFKD and -516 for BB

So when we include the LLs, thats -2700a for BB and 2000a for Emeriti in an early war where you WD before the farming could happen. That's owning.

Now, about the farming, did you find the summary of last age's fight?

[Palem]

that's why everyone hated abs, because you'd do that instead of fight eachother.

I don't think you understand how alliances work...