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    Quote Originally Posted by DoOrDie View Post
    It was around 52h long.

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    So when we include the LLs, thats -2700a for BB and 2000a for Emeriti in an early war where you WD before the farming could happen. That's owning.

    Now, about the farming, did you find the summary of last age's fight?
    Does this mean BB has owned Emeriti all ages but 1 when they consistetently has charted higher than Emeriti? You have a very vague definitiion of "Owning"

    I assume you can use the search functions as well if you are so keen to find the war summary. Dont be so lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    so to confirm, losing 1k acres and you gaining 1k acres in a war longer than min-time (I think it was like 3-4days) was us getting "Farmed" and "owned"
    The war went about 8h past min time. Your kingdom was trashed by that point (due to out 7 t/m's vs your 2.) When you approached me for a cf before you wd, my main hope was that you'd war a bit longer. We put good land on our provinces where it counted including our thief mages and calves while having others chained to be able to easily random back. After the war, had we b2b'd you instead of being so generous, you'd have stood no chance at all and probably only been in war range if we nw dropped. You lost decisively in a fight your kingdom chose. Last age you noticed Emeriti when you were 10% bigger and Emeriti gained 68k acres. Keep trying to claim you weren't farmed or owned.

    Also keep bringing up how Emeriti wound up gaining 27k acres from the ex-BB player FSU kingdom that hit down their cows and refused to give back 60% of the land for an eoa cf. Keep ignoring that you had 2 consecutive farm wars of your own around that time. In one you also gained ~27k acres and in the other you gained 40 something k. Once again, you were 10% bigger than Emeriti and Emeriti's cows had been beat down when you noticed Emeriti and wound up getting farmed by them.

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    The way I view (and its the only view that matters) I served notice to pyros mouth piece in yr 5. He responded with a you tube video saying I have nothing to threaten with. So as soon as they put up cows that would be in our range we decided to hit since we were already trained up for wsk. So first mistake was putting cows up when a fsu kd was right there with a notice served. And i repeat a notice that wasn't even needed. So you you didmt take my notice seriously. That's not my problem. Sonwe took what 3-4k acres and waited for some diplo action. We were even ready to give those acres back. Hey we just wanted to prove a point. No diplo happened. Sobour next option was to sit around and do nothing or start razing. I was all for the razing. Again my decision.
    Next we had every intention of resetting our provs. I had things set up and everyone was ready. We got plundered and got a mail from the plundering kd which i posted. So given how pyro likes to play and cheat we didn't even give them the benefit of the doubt. Now we don't need anyondo permission on anything we do. Bottom line is even if we get gb and get razed you still lost and out played to a ghetto of 15 provs even though you got the WW. We didn't db anyone. We didn't cheat. We just made the best play that was at hand.

    Also ASF I played 1 age in CR. 3 ages in pewpew 5-6 ages in vnv. I started the kd and make most of the decisions of everyday life. So how does that make us an ex BB kd? I think I trash talked flogger during the whole gb crap of emeriti because I felt bad for you. Well for your core. Now we are razing an ally of BB. So your remarks are unfounded. I dislike you both equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Gets farmout from Chystal: brags about winning.... so impressive, such skillz.
    http://i.imgur.com/ymipMgN.jpg


    Flogger gets 40k acres from Divinity (13k more than Emeriti VS CP), thinks he's gonna farm Emerit and brags on the forum.

    Ended up being farmed.

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    Korp, argue what you want but Emeriti and BB have had 2 wars. Emeriti won both very decisively. They are up about 75k total acres in those two wars vs BB.

    How about you now stop derailing this thread and we get back to the topic of how Pyro had a guy plunder Crystal from outside the fight before he left his kingdom to join Pyro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Korp, argue what you want but Emeriti and BB have had 2 wars. Emeriti won both very decisively. They are up about 75k total acres in those two wars vs BB.

    How about you now stop derailing this thread and we get back to the topic of how Pyro had a guy plunder Crystal from outside the fight before he left his kingdom to join Pyro?
    Still didnt manage to chart better than BB more than once. I guess thats what losers does, pick on details rather than whats worth something. :)

    OH and talk about derailing

    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Go Xstal! Be careful though, razing a kd before they train up is a gb'able offense and worthy of you or anyone associated with you being deal broke and waved into war.

    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Anri, I will make one post on this subject, then I hope you'll stop taking threads off topic on this. The first time I ever talked to Crystal was after he hit Emeriti's cows down while they were completely untrained and Emeriti asked me to help work something out with him. Crystal was polite and well spoken in the diplomacy, but we were unable to reach a deal. Emeriti was asking Crystal for some amount of their cow acres back. I think they wanted 60% back for EOA CF if I remember right. Emeriti had their cows wrecked by his hits. (They later got completely destroyed in the war but Emeriti gained overall.)
    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    If we wanted to talk real conspiracy, we could talk about how Crystal has more BB players than any others and hit down Emeriti cows before their upcoming fight with BB last age. Crystal states he went to Anri and BB for advice on the matter. He also said at the time in our diplo that he did the FSU and wouldn't give the acres back even though he personally was against it because his kingdom outvoted him on doing it.

    Is it just a random coincidence that a kingdom with many ex-BB members did FSU on Emeriti by hitting down their cows shortly before their CF with BB was up? Does the FSu not working out as well as planned make it ok? Was it ok for Bour to hit BB this age to try and get a cf since he immediatley offered all land plus more back and in the end gave BB ~3x the land he took back? Hypocrisy anyone?

    HELLO HYPOCRITE, but I guess its only "derailing" when it gets uncomfortable to you.:D Such a loser.

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    Crystal,
    Flogger and Korp and others keep bringing up the 27k acres Emeriti gained from the failed FSU on them. As you have stated, your kingdom has more ex-BB than from any other kd (including your monarch.) You have a founding kd policy to never hit BB or CR but you had no issue with FSU on other top kds.

    While Emeriti gained 27k acres from you (at the cost of their cows), BB gained 40 something k from their own war around that time. They also gained 20 something k from a farm war they had right before that. BB was 10% bigger than Emeriti when Flogger noticed Emeriti. Flogger constantly whining about Emeriti gaining 27k acres from the failed FSU on them is as dumb as if Emeriti was to whine about BB getting 3x the razed land back from Bour in their deal.

    Please understand that I'm not insulting or complaining about your kingdom. I am simply pointing out how ridiculous the whining by Flogger and Korp on the topic is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    Crystal,
    Flogger and Korp and others keep bringing up the 27k acres Emeriti gained from the failed FSU on them. As you have stated, your kingdom has more ex-BB than from any other kd (including your monarch.) You have a founding kd policy to never hit BB or CR but you had no issue with FSU on other top kds.

    While Emeriti gained 27k acres from you (at the cost of their cows), BB gained 40 something k from their own war around that time. They also gained 20 something k from a farm war they had right before that. BB was 10% bigger than Emeriti when Flogger noticed Emeriti. Flogger constantly whining about Emeriti gaining 27k acres from the failed FSU on them is as dumb as if Emeriti was to whine about BB getting 3x the razed land back from Bour in their deal.

    Please understand that I'm not insulting or complaining about your kingdom. I am simply pointing out how ridiculous the whining by Flogger and Korp on the topic is.
    Another post to derail this thread even further, bit cheeky arent you. Asking someone else stop derailing a thread and get back on topic then go even more off topic the next post. This is what we call a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Still didnt manage to chart better than BB more than once. I guess thats what losers does, pick on details rather than whats worth something. :)
    Emeriti was formed during the age 3 ages ago after starting with ~12 players. We finished the age #3 land and #2 nw but this was by no means a full age for us. We were in the bottom 15% of kingdoms size wise two weeks into the age before we decided to grow.

    The next age we beat BB in an early war but failed to secure any other wars that we needed before fighting Pyro since everyone viewed us as too strong after that since we had great province positioning due to our BB war. We lost to Pyro over Christmas in a war that was unwinnable going in. BB secured farm wars with weak kingdoms to pass us in ranks by eoa after Pyro beat us.

    Last age BB was 10% bigger than us after their two consecutive farm wars when they noticed Emeriti. They got farmed for 68k acres and Emeriti crowned.

    This age, Emeriti was #1 before any drama. Later they were farming the #3 kd Pyro and BB deal broke them and waved into the war. BB will finish higher than Emeriti on the charts. I'm not denying that BB will beat Emeriti on the charts due to deal breaking and gb'ing them. I'm congratulating them for it. I'm also saying that they went that direction because the 1v1 warring against Emeriti was not working out for them as shown in the last two ages.

    As for derailing, you might be right that I did derail some earlier, but the posts you quoted were related to the discussion in the thread including the worry by Crystal that they could get gb'd for waving Pyro and the posts saying how Crystal's kingdom has more ex-BB members than from anywhere else. Still you have a point. I am not uncomfortable though with where the thread has gone. I just think that Pyro's latest **** play shouldn't be overlooked and flooded away with spam.

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    Nobody, meaning me, noted the number of spin off kingdoms that appeared in recent ages. Some worked out, others haven't. Like 70's tv.

    The biggest disappointment are the poor kingdom name choices. Makes me want to start a kingdom that crushes bad theme. ;-)
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    Unfortunately, no amount of razes will improve your war record
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    Emeriti was formed during the age 3 ages ago after starting with ~12 players. We finished the age #3 land and #2 nw but this was by no means a full age for us. We were in the bottom 15% of kingdoms size wise two weeks into the age before we decided to grow.
    Dont derail the thread please. ¨

    The next age we beat BB in an early war but failed to secure any other wars that we needed before fighting Pyro since everyone viewed us as too strong after that since we had great province positioning due to our BB war. We lost to Pyro over Christmas in a war that was unwinnable going in. BB secured farm wars with weak kingdoms to pass us in ranks by eoa after Pyro beat us.
    Dont derail the thread please, especially after you ask someone else to stop derailing it.

    Last age BB was 10% bigger than us after their two consecutive farm wars when they noticed Emeriti. They got farmed for 68k acres and Emeriti crowned.
    Dont derail the thread please and for the love of god, stop repeating yourself.

    As for derailing, you might be right that I did derail some earlier, but the posts you quoted were related to the discussion in the thread including the worry by Crystal that they could get gb'd for waving Pyro and the posts saying how Crystal's kingdom has more ex-BB members than from anywhere else. Still you have a point. I am not uncomfortable though with where the thread has gone. I just think that Pyro's latest **** play shouldn't be overlooked and flooded away with spam.
    No, there werent at all related to the topic at hand. If you want to learn the topic, you could check the topic and first post. This thread was about "Where is Pyro" as stated in the first post. Neither of your posts were about that.

    "I just think that Pyro's latest **** play shouldn't be overlooked and flooded away with spam." <- Then stop derailing the thread.

    Obviously uncomfortable since you ignored every jab i threw at you about you being so upset that you demanded people quit playing Utopia. I guess its shamefull for you to get that angry over a game on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace View Post
    The way I view (and its the only view that matters) I served notice to pyros mouth piece in yr 5. He responded with a you tube video saying I have nothing to threaten with. So as soon as they put up cows that would be in our range we decided to hit since we were already trained up for wsk. So first mistake was putting cows up when a fsu kd was right there with a notice served. And i repeat a notice that wasn't even needed. So you you didmt take my notice seriously. That's not my problem. Sonwe took what 3-4k acres and waited for some diplo action. We were even ready to give those acres back. Hey we just wanted to prove a point. No diplo happened. Sobour next option was to sit around and do nothing or start razing. I was all for the razing. Again my decision.
    Next we had every intention of resetting our provs. I had things set up and everyone was ready. We got plundered and got a mail from the plundering kd which i posted. So given how pyro likes to play and cheat we didn't even give them the benefit of the doubt. Now we don't need anyondo permission on anything we do. Bottom line is even if we get gb and get razed you still lost and out played to a ghetto of 15 provs even though you got the WW. We didn't db anyone. We didn't cheat. We just made the best play that was at hand.

    Also ASF I played 1 age in CR. 3 ages in pewpew 5-6 ages in vnv. I started the kd and make most of the decisions of everyday life. So how does that make us an ex BB kd? I think I trash talked flogger during the whole gb crap of emeriti because I felt bad for you. Well for your core. Now we are razing an ally of BB. So your remarks are unfounded. I dislike you both equally.
    You did not outplay anyone, you did not win anything. All you did was plan to reset, aka give up in an effort to screw someone with a game mechanic. Outplay is to win and gain some advantage at the end.

    No one was complaining about the wave. None of us cared.

    You are trying to get attention and no one cares beyond that you are behaving like an irrational child and people want to give YOU the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some rationality to your actions. By our own admission there is not. OK, fine. Move along then chrystal. I think everyone knows how to deal with you from now on. Pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace View Post
    The way I view ...
    More raving. You spent 20 posts beeing obnoxious and talking how you gona get gb'ed before anything even happened. Than when nothing happened and you got declared mysterious *plunder* on a core province with no resources happened and you do what you did.

    Only a fool or someone with agenda would back up your bs story.

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    Korp, you say to "stop derailing the thread" 4 times in one post while also saying "stop repeating yourself." I replied to your jab about people quitting. Did you miss it?

    So, who was the player that plundered Crystal's kd from outside the fight and then left to join Pyro?

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