Panda vs bb

[Korp]

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Yes, I am well aware of every move. That's why I know that after you got farm wars, you decided to grow and fight Emeriti, instead of just staying out of range and letting kds that were competing take care of it. For most of that time, you thought you would lose to Emeriti.

I found this part hilarious, apparently its not okey to grow when you are not competing for the crown.

[Meep]

I found this part hilarious, apparently its not okey to grow when you are not competing for the crown.

That's not what he's saying at all.

He's saying it's not okay to grow in range of the KDs that are competing, and then just expect a free deal all age because you're not competing.

People can do whatever the hell they want, that doesn't entitle them to CR not hitting them just because they've decided not claim to not competing despite being in the top 5 largest KDs in the world.

[Korp]

That's not what he's saying at all.

He's saying it's not okay to grow in range of the KDs that are competing, and then just expect a free deal all age because you're not competing.

People can do whatever the hell they want, that doesn't entitle them to CR not hitting them just because they've decided not claim to not competing despite being in the top 5 largest KDs in the world.

You drinking some mad Kool-aid if you get that out of that.

[Meep]

You drinking some mad Kool-aid if you get that out of that.

What's wrong with kool-aid?

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[StratOcastle]

Man, I need an office job. All the dharma happens while I'm counting breadsticks in the freezer.

[Band of Horses]

Incorrect troll post for many reasons.

Vir is with CR this age. I dont think its a proud moment for Vir that his kd intentionally gave BB land in war but he came clean with it. Which should be respected. He did not need to tell a soul.

As I said in the statement "Then and now" Vir being then as in the time frame I was discussing. Hesus being now (and then too).

In regards to ovenmitt. He spied on our kd and was in pewpew. Thus we demanded the cheater to not be hosted by any top kd for at least the upcoming age. Pew had age prior maliciously dropped 80k land to wave us after having played in the top. Requesting unlimited waves on us. Ofc we pay them back with same respect. Binar and me are still friendly because we know the rules.

You were unreasonable, enough said.

Alice was not our allies. Just a ghetto monarch i saw growing and did not want to farm out in the top to ruin gameplay for the rest. Knowing how ghetto they were it was a huge risk. I advised him to not war pewpew and instead drop out from top or share acres to both pewpew and us. Instead he got farmed and made pewpew #1 kd in a position where we almost could not beat them.

Alice sure thought you were allies, they posted so and everything. You didn't want to stop them from farming out, you wanted them to farm out to you. I know for a fact you are lying here, you tried to negotiate getting the war and were willing to wave them before the Pew cf time was up to leave them trained and without a farm. Interesting that you had a blank cf with them but werent allies and yet you both were putting up banks. Seriously don't insult our intelligence. I'd have more respect for someone admitting they were dirty and being ok with it than someone lying.

I love how you twist actual events to try and make me look bad when nothing that went down is border line.
Its funny you think we gb emeriti to gain land, i was looking for a reason over how they stole our crown the age before and most of all dealbroke Vir by eoa from his prov crown. ASF knows this and could easy confirm this. I told him we would screw them for that very reason before the previous age had ended. That some others started to gb emeriyi just made it easier.

That's why it took you weeks to join... If you were joining because of what Emeriti had done you would have joined from the beginning since the evidence didn't change just a winning side was determined.

Bye octobrev

Lmfao I didn't think this theory would gain traction but I am amused by it nonetheless. Not quite as flattering as being called Zauper, but he's still pretty good.

As one of the guys who started Pandas can I just say... We haven't ran from any of the the top in our 3 ages. I'm proud to say that we've warred the majority of the top kds in our time whether advantages or disadvantaged BB now, Pyro last age, CJ Chrystal hell even ED Spartans and Fluffy all of which were good warring kds. It's not about crowning for me it's about the fun with guys who enjoy the game. Sure good and bad decisions have been made in the time CF that shouldn't have happened and things we got involved in we shouldn't have but that's life you make decisions and reflect like any person.

All this Simians **** annoys me because Anri wasn't here at the start of Pandas but just because he is now it doesn't mean the kds are the same they are totally different.

So really what I'm saying is......f**k you and have a nice day!

Anry hiding behind a different IRC name doesn't count as him not being there lmfao.

I agree with your philosophy on playing the game to have fun and enjoy the people you are around though! There really isn't some profound feeling from crowning (not that you would know), it's just like ok cool. But hanging out with your friends for 3 months with inside jokes and esoteric references is x10 better; I promise.

Have a nice day 2u2 :-P

[Anri]

That's not what he's saying at all.

He's saying it's not okay to grow in range of the KDs that are competing, and then just expect a free deal all age because you're not competing.

People can do whatever the hell they want, that doesn't entitle them to CR not hitting them just because they've decided not claim to not competing despite being in the top 5 largest KDs in the world.

This is accurate. Because also while not competing they still get all up some ppls business. Blocking in the top, deciding to wave some and make different tax deals depending on what KD you are. All meanwhile playing judge and executioner towards all war tier KDs and try get free farmwars from them. We nor anyone else need to make deals to anyone just because they say or pretend to be age-off. There are no reserved ranks for them above the ones really competing up there.

[Korp]

Its funny seing Anri pretending to be some kind of good guy :)

[AMP]

Band of Horse, you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

When Pandas joined the awar, it was far far away from being sorted. Thats why it took 3 weeks to sort it out, several wars and conflicts, AFTER Pandas joined.

Also, defending as a good strategy that you take 3-4 weeks without gaining almost any land is the best way to outwhore a kd who is cfed with everyone, is simply a statement that is either malicious and false, or one of someone who has no idea about whoring for the top.

[Anri]

As I said in the statement "Then and now" Vir being then as in the time frame I was discussing. Hesus being now (and then too).


You were unreasonable, enough said.


Alice sure thought you were allies, they posted so and everything. You didn't want to stop them from farming out, you wanted them to farm out to you. I know for a fact you are lying here, you tried to negotiate getting the war and were willing to wave them before the Pew cf time was up to leave them trained and without a farm. Interesting that you had a blank cf with them but werent allies and yet you both were putting up banks. Seriously don't insult our intelligence. I'd have more respect for someone admitting they were dirty and being ok with it than someone lying.


That's why it took you weeks to join... If you were joining because of what Emeriti had done you would have joined from the beginning since the evidence didn't change just a winning side was determined.


Lmfao I didn't think this theory would gain traction but I am amused by it nonetheless. Not quite as flattering as being called Zauper, but he's still pretty good.



Anry hiding behind a different IRC name doesn't count as him not being there lmfao.

I agree with your philosophy on playing the game to have fun and enjoy the people you are around though! There really isn't some profound feeling from crowning (not that you would know), it's just like ok cool. But hanging out with your friends for 3 months with inside jokes and esoteric references is x10 better; I promise.

Have a nice day 2u2 :-P

Interesting you say that when i said the exact opposite. Trust me, i been offered deals to win or get ahead plenty of times.

Alice was being entirely noob and refused to listen to my guidance when i said they would not be able to fight Pewpew and come out gaining land as they expected.
What i told them was that they should give pewpew free land for a deal and then match the same to us and go back to warring tiers. They offered us war at that moment to dodge pewpew, had i wanted to be a douchebag i had taken that war and farmed the server afterwards since we all ready had a pretty nice lead even without any deals, just because we played the best and most aggressively waving the top and forcing deals out of them it would most likely have been possible. At the time of Alice telling me they would actually war pewpew and confirmed it to me i said i might as well wave them before this can happen because at the time being that was the only way we could secure the age. Note how we never did it even if we could have done so. It would not have been right in the end of the day. So they got to war pewpew in peace and lost majorly while pewpew gained 20k land and came on top of us. Pewpew prep started and we struggled majorly to even catch up getting range to fight them because of that war, had we not won the fight its much likely pewpew would have secured top rank and maybe even won that age. All because one monarch of a ghetto decided to grow without being able to compete and not willing to take guidance. I dont know what you heard, but its likely hearsay and not from the horses mouth.

Edit: You are correct, Alice thought we were allies because of that monarch messaging me every day for guidance. I think he messaged a lot of other KDs also thou.
I was nice enough to give him a free CF, something i do to most KDs wanting to move up in the world and learn. This age is no different, we waved all top KDs but Greens, they got a free CF from us. Thou i feel they can handle it so much better than this Alice kd could. It does not mean were allies nor that the CF would last forever. It means they can grow free to compete unless there is a risk they farmout to someone. This is rather common i would say. Many gets deals if they promise to not farm out to competition. Alice was no different and Green is no different. Weather we have to fight Greens or not in the future remains to be seen. I like their style and i hope they can do okey without us interfering much at all. It might come down to us having to make a deal in some kind of way or even wave them. It should not be hard to grasp for someone like you BoH. Anyone ever speaking to the monarch of Alice would know he wants to do good but is surely not capable of running a top KD.





I was in Pandas from the start, i did not hide this fact to people i consider being close to me, all i did was change nick to my irl nick. The main point was that i was not LS, i wanted nothing to do with LS. Thou i nagged LS non stop to get involved in raping Emeriti and showed them a variety of logs from previous age how our KD was treated, it took quite some time to convince the current LS to get involved. If they did it because i nagged em about it or not i dont know. They did move in to slow and they did wave another KD pre moving in which was also bad. I think KD were behind quite a lot and just moving in and deal emeriti button right away would been hard for them.

If you are not octobrev maybe you are Ovenmitt raised from the dead ;-)
I just saw someone else say octobrev and went for it. I dont really care who you are.
You are just a dude that normally makes pretty solid posts.

Enjoy!

[flogger]

respect for flogger to post his thoughts which are quite interesting to read.

From an outsiders perspective it did appear that you were focusing too much on smashing TMs rather than seeing the more "overall" situation, which especially hurt in a case where you allow big avians with huge BR that can get too big too fast.

Sometimes letting someone have peasants can be good, in that it helps over pop them. Like their one bank we did get down we wouldn't have gotten down if he had no peasants. So avian can be fairly dangerous, but letting em have the peasants when you had a 3 day hostile probably won't work. I need like 20 hours a day to properly see the overall situation, this game is hard. Can't do it on 4-6 hours a day.

[Band of Horses]

Interesting you say that when i said the exact opposite. Trust me, i been offered deals to win or get ahead plenty of times.

Alice was being entirely noob and refused to listen to my guidance when i said they would not be able to fight Pewpew and come out gaining land as they expected.
What i told them was that they should give pewpew free land for a deal and then match the same to us and go back to warring tiers. They offered us war at that moment to dodge pewpew, had i wanted to be a douchebag i had taken that war and farmed the server afterwards since we all ready had a pretty nice lead even without any deals, just because we played the best and most aggressively waving the top and forcing deals out of them it would most likely have been possible. At the time of Alice telling me they would actually war pewpew and confirmed it to me i said i might as well wave them before this can happen because at the time being that was the only way we could secure the age. Note how we never did it even if we could have done so. It would not have been right in the end of the day. So they got to war pewpew in peace and lost majorly while pewpew gained 20k land and came on top of us. Pewpew prep started and we struggled majorly to even catch up getting range to fight them because of that war, had we not won the fight its much likely pewpew would have secured top rank and maybe even won that age. All because one monarch of a ghetto decided to grow without being able to compete and not willing to take guidance. I dont know what you heard, but its likely hearsay and not from the horses mouth.

Edit: You are correct, Alice thought we were allies because of that monarch messaging me every day for guidance. I think he messaged a lot of other KDs also thou.
I was nice enough to give him a free CF, something i do to most KDs wanting to move up in the world and learn. This age is no different, we waved all top KDs but Greens, they got a free CF from us. Thou i feel they can handle it so much better than this Alice kd could. It does not mean were allies nor that the CF would last forever. It means they can grow free to compete unless there is a risk they farmout to someone. This is rather common i would say. Many gets deals if they promise to not farm out to competition. Alice was no different and Green is no different. Weather we have to fight Greens or not in the future remains to be seen. I like their style and i hope they can do okey without us interfering much at all. It might come down to us having to make a deal in some kind of way or even wave them. It should not be hard to grasp for someone like you BoH. Anyone ever speaking to the monarch of Alice would know he wants to do good but is surely not capable of running a top KD.





I was in Pandas from the start, i did not hide this fact to people i consider being close to me, all i did was change nick to my irl nick. The main point was that i was not LS, i wanted nothing to do with LS. Thou i nagged LS non stop to get involved in raping Emeriti and showed them a variety of logs from previous age how our KD was treated, it took quite some time to convince the current LS to get involved. If they did it because i nagged em about it or not i dont know. They did move in to slow and they did wave another KD pre moving in which was also bad. I think KD were behind quite a lot and just moving in and deal emeriti button right away would been hard for them.

If you are not octobrev maybe you are Ovenmitt raised from the dead ;-)
I just saw someone else say octobrev and went for it. I dont really care who you are.
You are just a dude that normally makes pretty solid posts.

Enjoy!

You are forgetting a key element in the Alice v Pew v Simians, Alice and Pew altered CF time and started hostile early to avoid you since they saw you drafting up. That hurt Alice more than Pew. You also CF'd Divinity right before this for a pretty sweet deal that resulted in them being big enough to farm out later. Yes you guys played well up to that point and were #1, all credit there. Just inexperience on your KD's LS part that cost you that lawlsy age. But you didn't try to do it with clean hands. You live in the grey area is my point of all this, not the white knight that you sometimes believe yourself.

You admit here that you played in SimPanders from the start yet Cheetzy just one page ago said:

All this Simians **** annoys me because Anri wasn't here at the start of Pandas but just because he is now it doesn't mean the kds are the same they are totally different.

You see how your kd lies? That's not good imo.

The 3 weeks after that AMP is claiming was clean up, and you stretched 6 days to try to pump and fight CJ since he said he would notice you after the awar. Big drama thread about that and CJ was really kind to you. I'd have had more respect for you if you had joined at start like Anry is saying, maybe the new leadership isn't as noble as Anry...

I appreciate that you think I make some pretty solid posts though :D I stand firm with #FreeOvenmitt

I don't hate you or pandas, I don't even think you're evul. Just living in the grey.

[Anri]

You missed a few important points as to why you are losing Flogger.

I think spending nearly all your cash and sending us a ruby vs our gold on you guys was one of the more major screwups, even if it Protector was defending this choice of dragon until he turned blue in his face.

And your bank strategy? What the holy hell, its been very bad....

[zsivhawk]

Anri - Please post update in war thread in the news :(

[Anri]

You are forgetting a key element in the Alice v Pew v Simians, Alice and Pew altered CF time and started hostile early to avoid you since they saw you drafting up. That hurt Alice more than Pew. You also CF'd Divinity right before this for a pretty sweet deal that resulted in them being big enough to farm out later. Yes you guys played well up to that point and were #1, all credit there. Just inexperience on your KD's LS part that cost you that lawlsy age. But you didn't try to do it with clean hands. You live in the grey area is my point of all this, not the white knight that you sometimes believe yourself.

You admit here that you played in SimPanders from the start yet Cheetzy just one page ago said:

You see how your kd lies? That's not good imo.

The 3 weeks after that AMP is claiming was clean up, and you stretched 6 days to try to pump and fight CJ since he said he would notice you after the awar. Big drama thread about that and CJ was really kind to you. I'd have had more respect for you if you had joined at start like Anry is saying, maybe the new leadership isn't as noble as Anry...

I appreciate that you think I make some pretty solid posts though :D I stand firm with #FreeOvenmitt

I don't hate you or pandas, I don't even think you're evul. Just living in the grey.

I don't know. Cheetzy maybe trying to tone that i was in KD or not. It hardly matters since i did not lead KD nor was in LS that age. It probably did take half the age for some ppl to find out who i was. If cheetzy was one of them i don't know.

I was aware all along about Alice and Pewpew adjusting war time, we are neither dumb or blind. I don't want to dig up logs from my old uninstalled HDD but we discussed these things in LS channel. I don't know how many times we said we wanted to win age playing Level hard. 1) Stay named Simians 2) Avoid LDs best we could. 3) Fight our way to crown and wave competition. There are more points i could mention but i think this is the prefered style of playing at least for us and in reality it should work out to win an age by fighting over cfing, its just a way of rolling the dice, its not as safe, it is harder and it requires other KDs to play clean etc. Either way its damn fun and should hopefully gain respect among doubters. We do know how to war good and whore good. Ofc the diplomacy suffers a bit because we really do have to pick fights to grow. It is far better to end rank 2 and having won 4-5 top fights compared to have 0 wars, be bored out of your skull and end #1. Thou, we might be able to get a nice war with CR later if we keep up good enough. Its very different playing styles and CR way should be easier and best way to win still.