You need to stop watching msnbc and take a deep breath. He isn't even president yet and has saved more jobs then Obama in the last 4 years. So it's a good start.Originally Posted by Swirvin'Birds
You need to stop watching msnbc and take a deep breath. He isn't even president yet and has saved more jobs then Obama in the last 4 years. So it's a good start.
He hasn't 'saved' a single job. Not 1. Do you not understand that?
The economy was in a big nose spin when Obama took over and it slowly recovered. You have no clue how many jobs he saved. It could have been much worse.
I get my news from all over the place. Even fox news and huffington post just to get the other sides take.
What, you think either of those 2 stories are B.S.? Pretty easy to check for yourself.
This isn't some twitter/facebook news feed like your illegals voting claim was. I'm under the impression your susceptible to fake news and never fact check anything yourself...
The Auto bailout saved 1.2 million jobs alone. You gonna give him credit for that?
Let's go into the bail outs then, one of Obamas greatest mistakes. Did you know they could have cut everyone in America a hundred thousand dollar check for the same price as they bailed out the banks. Which would have done more for the economy? As for auto bail outs they took tax payers money and immediately built plants in China and Mexico with that money. History will point to Obama being the biggest sell out and con man in the history of the USA. Right behind him will be Bush though haha.
1) 318.9 million * $100,000 is $31.89 trillion.
2) The closest you can get to that number is this:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/06/news...mulus_fits_in/
Obama was responsible for $800 billion of the $8 trillion. He wasn't even in office by the time that first pit was passed. His plan/portion of the bailout was $800 billion. The GOP appointees to the Fed and others as well as the Republicans that voted for it are on the hook for the rest (Remember, Bush was still in office and much of that money was apportioned and asked for by Republican appointees holding cabinet and/or Fed positions).Total price tag so far: $7.2 trillion in investment and loans. That puts a lot of taxpayer money at risk. Now comes President-elect Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan, some details of which were made public on Monday. The tally is getting awfully close to $8 trillion.
3) $800 billion / 318.9 million = $2,508.62. ( Obama )
4) Bush & the GOP = $7.2 trillion / 318.9 million = $22,577.61
If you use that number, add in everything the Fed did after that, etc. you still can't get to $32 trillion you'd need for your number to be correct. You'd also have to admit that Trump & the rest of the GOP were pro bailout:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/09...lout-plan.html
Trump wanted the bailout and would have done it.Now, I did not know about a $700 billion bailout, in all fairness. And I think probably, it is something — it's sad, but, probably, it's something that has to get done, because your financial system is most likely going to come to a halt if it does not. So, it is a pretty sad day for this country.
Are you less than 6 years old and have an excuse for this memory of yours?
Can you stop pulling 'facts' out of thin air, please.
'Then he must get beard' - Mitch at 6:52am, 5.4.16, in response to 'he said "One day when I grow up I want to be like Mitch"' gg
Boy, how can I argue with someone who doesn't even realize the Auo industry bailout was already paid back by the auto industry... Sigh. Well to be fair, at least 70 of the 79 billion.
Bush was the guy who bailed the banking industry out.
Last edited by Swirvin'Birds; 09-12-2016 at 19:58.
Are you sure you haven't been talking to my husband? He was saying the same thing all the way back to the bailouts...It is true. When Bush gave the citizens of the US a TAX Bonus, people paid down their debts and it did increase spending as a result. If Obama had bailed out the people instead of the banks, then we would have been able to bail out those banks ourselves. Part of the reason they needed to be bailed is because they overspent their deposits and overextended their reach. Too big to fail really called for their failure...
Ugg... It was enacted by BUSH. Not Obama. Please look it up. TARP. Don't worry though, your husband is with the nearly 1/2 of Americans who also get this wrong.
That's where fox gets their facts, so it's a little unfair to demand more from hand
I miss spoke fyi, I ment every tax paying household could receive a check. Not every man, woman and child. Yes Bush was behind part of it, but I believe Obama signed it into law.
Obviously you need to practice the art of trolling. ;)
Bush enacted, Obama administered it as it was enacted in October near the end of Bush's presidency. To be fair it was a non-partison act. Both sides wanted it.
This past election was one massive exercise in trolling. I've had enough of it, at least for a while!
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'Then he must get beard' - Mitch at 6:52am, 5.4.16, in response to 'he said "One day when I grow up I want to be like Mitch"' gg
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palem
as a pure outsider, and a very left leaning but more importantly very very libertarian. The reason i percieve trump won, is because it was trump vs hillary, and not trump vs literally anyone else (bernie anyone).
Hillary is a proven liar, knows about and is fine with supporting isis, corrupt as all hell, complete establishment goldman sachs money taking etc and is even worse for war with russia than trump
literally anyone else would have beaten him, the DNC needs to look at itself long and hard
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