Just a question of how long they'll farm out before withdrawing. CR still has a 4m nw advantage (lol) but it's all in useless faery elites.
But flogger, wsk is positioned quite well against us. They have a reasonably long cf and will have a gigantic cow advantage.
If 8.8k net acres (less actually, we've ll'd they haven't)after a week is a farm out whats bb giving you like 50k acres?Originally Posted by jdorje
We'll were better at warring than CR so we gain more across our conflicts
Not sure what this has to do with whether a kd being down 8.8k acres is farmout but not gaining like 50 by just past mintime from a kd with ?40% less troops than you
We still plan to win,
Last edited by Meep; 04-02-2017 at 00:04.
Doesn't look like it, but you're definitely not going to crown
Also you guys were positioned to vastly out pump wsk, you guys just nubed up a ton of things. As coss said, had roles been reversed and he was leading CR, you'd be massively farmed.
Top leadership matters.
We can talk imaginary situations all day if we want but that isnt really going to prove anything.
Agreed. But #realtalk CR walked into this fight with tons of advantages, even wsk admitted to having only 1% chance to win but CR misplayed and now this fight is wide open and CR isn't crowning.
Agreed. But #realtalk even if we farmed this fight, we'd be walking into a fight against you having a multibillion gold lead over us as you solo farm the server while the two competing KDs fight.
Also, didn't you fortpump and wave WSK OOP and then proceed to lose the ensuing war?
Wsk had the best setup / start out of anyone early age and had they really wanted to be aholes to everyone, they would be best positioned to win the age. However, they're still in it (thanks to you) and may win still. We did wave them, they won war which was very well played and professionally executed on their end and the fight was acre neutral for both kds, they got the WW bonus acres and we got the hostile / war acres and both kds ended +5k. Not surprising that their fast starting Orc and well timed DW cow exploring setup would be stronger than sages week1. At least we had the balls to wave them when we were best positioned and war rather than give them free wave for cf like you did, and managed a situation where we gained land (instead of you losing). Funny how you threw that at me, doesn't really do anything.
You guys were the ones who decided to "try" this age to stop us from 3 peat. And you Meep were the one who talked to us and told us you were going to farm WSK and were asking us if we regret not giving you a free extension. Do you remember that? Well here's me telling you failed and you're not good. Your council players think super highly of themselves but haven't achieved anything and haven't really even been able to lead a kd until majority of the server quit.
As much as I like coss and consider him a friend, yes I would have preferred for you to win so I can enjoy the pleasure of farming you after war and telling you you're not crowning baby but I guess I'll just have to enjoy this instead. You guys are no where we good as you think you are. Hopefully after this age you will check your ego and stop asking people for 20% of their acres or 1.25x competitor acres to cf.
You guys are good at growth in vacuum and taxing people who can't fight back but when you you go head to head against a top leadership team on close to even land, you lose.
Let me know if you want more.
Last edited by Proteus; 04-02-2017 at 01:35.
That's actually the exact response I was looking for, thanks for obliging. Is it still us farming out if they gain in war and we get the WW bonus?
It might even be a shame if both KDs gained and then fought again!
You're apparently still missing the part where at no point in my entire time playing Utopia have I ever cared even the slightest bit about a crown of any sort.
You guys were the ones who decided to "try" this age to stop us from 3 peat. And you Meep were the one who talked to us and told us you were going to farm WSK and were asking us if we regret not giving you a free extension. Do you remember that? Well here's me telling you failed and you're not good. Your council players think super highly of themselves but haven't achieved anything and haven't really even been able to lead a kd until majority of the server quit.
As much as I like coss and consider him a friend, yes I would have preferred for you to win so I can enjoy the pleasure of farming you after war and telling you you're not crowning baby but I guess I'll just have to enjoy this instead. You guys are no where we good as you think you are. Hopefully after this age you will check your ego and stop asking people for 20% of their acres or 1.25x competitor acres to cf.
You guys are good at growth in vacuum and taxing people who can't fight back but when you you go head to head against a top leadership team on close to even land, you lose.
Let me know if you want more.
I like wars, big wars even, big relatively balanced wars come rarely.
Last edited by Meep; 04-02-2017 at 01:39.
This is exactly why you fight to win this conflict. If I was CR I'd look at this as delayed resurgence. You made your mistakes but can/will recover. There's no hurry now.
I know there's no truly bad blood between Emeriti and CR. Because I'm aware, is why. I'm a topsy fan myself so I can understand.
Still, I spent 20 minutes in Wsk and can appreciate the fruition of grande scale objectives for them. I only envy them for seeing coss work. A couple in there are kind of funny from a serious perspective. I remember getting yelled at in HRS for my build: it's tradition. - Maximo is the most humanlike of the Wsk soldiers I know.
You guys are doing well. But stick with elves when you choose elves. I hadn't begun to fight.
Edit ~
I almost forgot, like Columbo. We have a combined crown, but I'm thinking we should have an honor bestowed by Proteus. The Accomplishment Award and the Zero Accomplishment Award: at the end of each age, Proteus can simply post who won The Accomplishment Award and who earned(that's right; earned) the Zero Accomplishment Award. That's not sarcasm even if it smacks of the Brubaker slow clap.
Last edited by StratOcastle; 04-02-2017 at 02:12.
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You can do what you want, just know CR isn't crowning. And you can't pretend to not care but we all know your ego is broken as you expected to farm WSK by now and for war to be over, you said so yourself.
As for this war we will just see how it goes but I have a feeling you aren't winning as coss is better then nubs like topsy who hasn't accomplished anything
Anyways ASF tells me you're a good guy Meep so sorry for getting carried away, frustrating we didn't get to war you as I think zauper / CR are a big joke and have been waiting to farm you but not always easy since people keep claiming to not be playing.
Last edited by Proteus; 04-02-2017 at 02:48.
I can assure you my ego has nothing to do with crowning :p
I just like having fun
What's wrong with flopsy? Hes a cool dude, stop being mean :(As for this war we will just see how it goes but I have a feeling you aren't winning as coss is better then nubs like topsy who hasn't accomplished anything
I try, I'm here to have fun, troll, and play a math game.Anyways ASF tells me you're a good guy Meep so sorry for getting carried away, frustrating we didn't get to war you as I think zauper / CR are a big joke and have been waiting to farm you but not always easy since people keep claiming to not be playing.
I can tell you for certainty though, zauper is not playing this age beyond offering some wisdom when us noobs need help.
Projecting
Meep, it's the cow acres that scare me. We know wsk knows how to use their cows and they're massively up in those acres. It makes it hard for us to have a fair war with them later since you're killing their core while their cows grow - so if we give them time to whore their core back upthen we'd have no chance, but if we go for them at earliest chance before they can do so then we're basically just being dicks to a kingdom I kind of like. You can chalk it up to the overpowered brokenness of bottomfeeding if you want.
I feel for you losing the cow fight. The moment I took intel on your 6k provinces and saw them running ridiculous high defense, watchtowers, hosps, and forts, I knew you guys weren't going to end up at 180k acres the way I'd expected. That was your mistake; there was no need for defense or hosps at all on provinces that you must have known would never get hit during the conflict. Now you're stuck with a massive number of faery elites; basically you're a kingdom full of tm's trying to fight orcs.
(FWIW the dspec training thing that seems to be getting so much attention is a non-issue. Dspecs don't cost any money. Maybe you saved them like 1 fools gold cast with that mistake. CR lost the cow fight because it was 4v3 and they were completely unable to leverage their huge core into getting any influence on the fight.)
(Also, the 180k acre number isn't pulled out of the hat. Both kingdoms have 15k+ pool by now, and the war win is another 13k. Add on incoming acres and the winner will be quite large. And that's with basically 0 net exchange happening in the fight so far which is a rarity.)
I do take issue with cr's style of play (basically, tricking people - like wsk - into giving them cf's, then whoring/farming out of range of them, then taxing them when the cf expires). This style is surely the result of a small number of leaders within cr, but it seems to be an institutional mindset that corrupts everyone who joins you. If you're a player who just wants to war, CR may not be the kingdom for you. I was looking forward to fighting you guys afterward, and now I'm not looking forward nearly as much to fighting wsk and their silly cow/core spread when the time comes.
Last edited by jdorje; 04-02-2017 at 06:12.
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