Quote Originally Posted by silverfox View Post
Not sure how much of the above you'd already spoken to Parth about, I did try to be clear that I didn't know the exact timings of a lot of things (I was away most of the weekend as well), but it gives what I would consider a reasonable overview of the timeline to people not involved (also tried to remain unbiased).

I'm not trying to paint it as ED offering FS a 100% even fight, but rather to show that it wasn't just a case of ED being hell bent on killing FS at any costs. ED offered FS some time to war and prep, they could have taken it and lost (if they thought they would) then moved on, but they refused to war and then refused any CF offers, something they spent weeks complaining at ED for doing.

Them having a terrible setup isn't really an excuse for anything, they made their choices at the start of the age, it's like me picking a 25 T/M KD then crying foul when someone tries to make terms which doesn't include a long hostile.

I'd say their honour is relevant, what would they have lost if they wared ED and had to WD? Land and honour. What would they have lost if they had a 1, 2, 3 week hostile vs. ED? Land and honour, probably a lot of T/M power and maybe sci. What was one of the key points in EDs CF offers which were declined as being unreasonable? FS giving ED honour. The fairly reasonable conclusion is that FS didn't want to giveup any free honour to ED, yet are more than happy to harvest it in an AWAR where the other KD doesn't fight back.

The key point I'm trying to convey is that even after having provs raze killed and reset they were still #1 honour KD, gives an insight of how much they farmed from that war and it's not like they had to grind out (x) hard wars to get to #1 so ED were trying to rob them of some hard work. Maybe someone knows just how much they gained from the war, it seemed like ~10k acres (?) but I don't know the honour.

As for who in BB, that should probably be directed towards your own council to find out who authed it or towards your own allies who were making the claims about BB council.
How does having provs raze-killed decrease a KDs honor? If anything it increases it because the chained provs that generally end up on low honor get reset to 1800 honor. It's the science and other proper prov development that is lost (like wpa for example).
You like to say that FS didn't earn their honor, I beg to differ. FS was a part of a long awar that it plunged into without knowing the end-result, it put in weeks of planning, execution, activity etc. sacrificing time and energy that could have been spent pumping provs all the while under the threat of being completely out of the age if it's side lost (lets not kid ourselves what would happen to FS if Emeriti won).
You took advantage of all of this and are now sitting on 7.5k extra honor (I will not call it free because you spent time preparing to take it, although you probably didn't have to sacrifice nearly as much as FS did) so why can't you now be satisfied and just stop throwing the FS name in the dirt as much as you possibly can? FS leadership congratulated you on your move and moved on, maybe it's time you do so as well (or don't but then face the fact that I will not keep silent about your hypocrisy).