Israel, it's about time!

[Nemo]

I have already said - I think this is the third time I'm saying it - that I do not support what Hamas is doing or how they're going about things. And yes, I was referring to targeting civilians.

If you think that what the UN gave to the Jewish is Palestinian territory, then we will never agree and we can close the discussion now.

First good point you make. The UN is a crappy organization that could have done a better job. Most of the world suffer because of the UN's incompetent.

And yet you will continue to stand by the UNs decision? I don't care who voted for who and who didn't, but I would never let some people just come in and take my home.

But I guess we've found a fundamental point upon which we disagree, so we'll leave the discussion at that. And we can fight on and on about the other points forever. And we'll probably get increasingly passionate and pick fights over little its and bits from each others post [Israel doesn't manipulate the world media?], quarrel about how points were taken out of context and say things we don't want to say, like "But Israel brought the civilians into the conflict zone in the first place. So Hamas is bombing people who are on their land." Of course, that doesn't justify anything. I think it's best to leave the argument as is. Looks to me like it's gonna stay that way for a long time.

I make a point of staying out of Communism-Capitalism, Israel-Palestine type discussion. Frankly, those are debates without ends. But allonons post really bugged me.

Anyway, speaking as a person who lives in a country far removed from this conflict, I wish you all the best Mournhelm. I hope you and your family will be safe, and that this mess clears up soon, for both sides sake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack
Wiki is not always accurate, but most times it is.

PS

OK, we agree it's their fault. What can we do about it?

You can ask US for Texas or the Brits for Wales. :)